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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg we're very happy

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on the pair cast with Gene and Chris to

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announced the return of the one and only

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Brad Steiger who has written more books

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than almost anybody except I think for

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Walter B Gibson who wrote all those

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novels about the shadow so I think

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number two has to be Brad Steiger he has

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written so many books I feel jealous I

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was privileged to spend an entire

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evening with my hero of Walter P Gibson

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because I was an amateur magician and as

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you know he wrote several books on magic

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together with his wife

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so it's interesting one by one that

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things as odd that nearly all of my

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heroes and that that's been a pleasure

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for me reading as a boy and listening to

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the shadow every Sunday yes explain

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listeners that Walter B Gibson was not

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just a magician he wrote over 300 novels

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for Street and Smith featuring The Fame

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pop fiction character the shadow you

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know who knows what evil lurks in the

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hearts of men yes they were

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about 25,000 words each but that doesn't

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diminish the number of titles it still

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takes plenty of time and energy one a

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week one a week you wrote for many years

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Wow Chris do you feel jealous III feel

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honored to have mister Steiger here yeah

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you have been a truly an inspiration to

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me in in my life I have learned more

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from you as an author crack researcher

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an investigator probably than any other

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single writer and I really want to say

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that gene at the top of the show here

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Brad you you're one of my heroes so good

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thank you push you push that ball down

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the field and we're you know we're

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standing on the shoulders of giants here

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well thank you very much and I have two

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of your books right off staring me in

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the face

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you're in there my man you're coming up

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well it's a tough job and somebody has

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to do it and I'll tell you and share

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really good yeah guys have done way more

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than above and beyond the call of duty

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in my bookshelf is filled with books

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that I have dragging around I don't know

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how many moves I've made and I made sure

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I've got I got my stack of books sir

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well thank you that's you're making me

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get verklempt there so thank you very

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much for clamped is one of these obscure

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Jewish words for those of us would not

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obscure hey before we get started with

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you Brad I wanted to kind of recall our

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show last week because I had a couple of

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comments maybe you want to drop in some

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opinions on it we had Mike Bearer whom

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as you probably know is someone who has

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researched strange artifacts on the moon

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and on Mars and has written stuff also

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about an alleged secret space program

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now I'll just make a few comments spread

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and you don't have to comment if you

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want to certainly chime it number one

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Chris is you recall he made this comment

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that it's one of these conservative

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liberal political arguments that

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liberals do not like the space program

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and I guess mentioned as an example

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former Vice President Walter Mondale now

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I um I get into the politics here

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because that's another show at another

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network and another forum at I'll simply

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talk about whether liberals or

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conservatives are in favor of the space

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program I'll just state one thing here

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which I think is correct the one

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compelling vision for space exploration

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came from John Kennedy that we'd land a

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man on the moon before 1970 which

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happened I think everything else as far

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as space exploration was an also-ran I

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think the Space Shuttle was just a

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holding pattern you hear these vague

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comments from different presidents and

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others Oh we'll get back to the moon in

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10 20 years maybe we'll be on Mars in

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2030 or thereabouts I think that's a

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cop-out now looking at how many years

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has happened Brad do you have any

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response to that before I go on

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I think it's one of those statements

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he's no I have to ask what basis do you

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have for making that evaluation other

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than made personal prejudice you mean in

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that was one from Mike Berra that was

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his conclusion okay that was not my

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conclusion I think both political know I

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understood sure sure I think most

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political I don't know his basis except

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maybe you know he's of the conservative

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persuasion therefore that's would be my

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first guess yeah well it's you know I

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don't want to get into politics either

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that's my thing and that's I decided to

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be political independent and fourth

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grade and I stuck with that thankfully

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sherry has the same philosophy but we

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were very politically active in terms of

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our observation and our study and of

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course so we could write books like

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conspiracy and secret societies without

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having an agenda which is why we think

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that book has been so successful because

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it really is an encyclopedia of

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conspiracies and every other conspiracy

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book out there you know takes has an

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agenda goes one way or the other so I

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hear someone saying something like you

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know an all-inclusive allness statement

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liberals are not in favor and I think of

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all the writers I know who are quite the

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bro who have been writing science

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fiction for decades and I think the

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space program has been a l'heure for

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both sides of the political aisle and

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statements like they have all enough

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statements and I always I have a

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knee-jerk reaction to that Chris you

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want to chime in before we go on well

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yeah and I I mean let's get real the

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amount of money that we spend defending

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ourselves against so-called the box box

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cutter carrying terrorists and in this

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whole war on

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terror which is fueling runaway

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defensemen in this country defense

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spending that could be I think much

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better applied to manned space

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exploration may be feeding the poor

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clothing people you know again I agree

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with Brad I don't you know in Eugene I

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don't think this is really a political

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form but you know to me it's a force for

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the trees thing if we actually took our

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spending and devoted it into exploration

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of space and the other things I

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mentioned I think I think this country

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in the world would be better served by

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that well there's always the argument

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about military industrial complex they

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keep it going because they want to

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enrich themselves and of course there

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are also lots and lots of stories about

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what might be going on with an alleged

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and this is another conspiracy an

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alleged secret space program and

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obviously Mike Berra subscribes to the

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alleged or a real or imagined secret

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space program which is basically saying

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that a lot of things going on behind the

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scenes and that's by satellites we know

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that but implying they're been manned

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explorations and that the public space

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program is just a public relations kind

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years ago and I had this in my book

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mysteries of time and space when I was

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asked to come I was living in Chicago at

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the time and was asked to come to one of

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the offices of one of the major airlines

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and executive we met in his home I

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shouldn't say his office on the on the

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airport but in his home he asked me to

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come there because he said aliens had

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contacted him and they were going to

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demonstrate a number of their

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instruments or technology that could be

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very useful to to our fledgling form of

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of aeronautics I bet you cleared your

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calendar for that one oh yes

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now just to you know cover my bets I had

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one of my

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best friends was a farmer special

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operative and I asked him to come along

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as a social justice so I had someone in

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my corner for sure and it was very

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fascinating then the way it turned out

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to me

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to my opinion and the way I evaluated it

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it seemed to me that these well they all

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spoke with a slight German accent which

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I thought was unusual for aliens but you

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know German speaking over here can you

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dig that we have Brad stager joining

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author of millions of books he wrote ten

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the show and then my feet are free you

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people say I tell bad jokes that's not a

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joke it's just a statement Brad you

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started on a long monologue there and

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unfortunately electronics and hard

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breaks kind of absurd so let's continue

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German accent Barney Hill and well I

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want to make this brief I'll try to

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summarize it seemed to me the more I

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have studied about the technology of the

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Germans before World War two and the

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very remarkably beautiful mediums who

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were channeling from the elder bonds and

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and this was in German secret society

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now they claimed that they had what we

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would call UFOs or flying saucers in the

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1930s

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their society not necessarily the Nazis

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farming the the Thule society yes yes

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that was was a halt in 1925 or something

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correct so we think it seems to have

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begun long before that and of course

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they've reorganized they're now in Italy

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they have reorganized and they're rising

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again I have found out but and this time

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they are all female

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there are no men in the group but but at

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any rate they told a fascinating story

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about coming through the United States

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in the early nineteen twenties finding

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caves in the old coal mines in southern

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Illinois and from there they had created

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their aircraft their vehicles

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which they went back and forth to the

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moon and had established bases on the

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moon now we've heard this a number of

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times haven't we and it's an allegation

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there has you know what seems

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preposterous claim but we start hearing

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it enough times and we say well anyway

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they made this claim and they so it

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seemed to me that these were not aliens

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but rather they were disguising as

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aliens or for their purpose and making

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contact at any rate they did demonstrate

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powder which a man had driven his

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Cadillac all summer using just this

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powder and water from his garden hose

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and then they demonstrated they had a

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large engine from from an airliner and

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they set it on fire and then they just

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took a little squirt of something like

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an atomizer and squirted it on it and

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the flames went out immediately

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so they were saying what a what an

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attribute this would be to any fire

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department and of course the idea of

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powdered gasoline and they said they had

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also demonstrated in an aircraft these

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people then wanted to make a big deal

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with and with the airlines and I said

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you know I don't think this is going to

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happen I said to the executives I said I

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think after this wonderful demonstration

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they will disappear and you're probably

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here near hear from them again which is

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exactly what happened except for one

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interesting fellow who seemed of Italian

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origin and he kind of kept in touch

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through for quite some time just teasing

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you know and I thought this is some kind

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of cosmic or plain earthly scam a friend

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of mine in the advertising business in

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Chicago learned of this and kept trying

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to get information and then mysteriously

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these flower lines from outer space

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begin to appear and he thought in all

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view he had been a fighter pilot in the

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Korean con

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and he thought you know I'm going to

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take a couple of these gals out and get

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them drunk and find out what really

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happened you know who they really are

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they can't be from outer space but they

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claim to be well they just of that

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adventure was they drank him completely

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under the table he says they were

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drinking and he was they were he was

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serving them doubles and and they were

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drinking it like like lemonade and then

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they all disappeared okay so they all

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disappear what do you mean disappeared

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like beamed out just disappeared

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I won't big dramatic to be mounted just

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for no longer in contact I had one

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meeting I drove the trains for the

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system in Chicago going from one suburb

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to another to meet one of them who was

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supposed to show up at this rather shady

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bar and one of the suburbs and after

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traveling several hours I I made my

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appointment on time but the individual

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never showed but it was one of those

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situations that got increasingly weird

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because I'd be walking down the streets

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of Chicago then we had telephone booths

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II remember sometimes one on every block

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or so and the telephone would ring and

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ring and I'd be walking by and something

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just told me go here and pick it up and

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time after time it was for me now this

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gives you that uneasy feeling of being

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watched you know someone's office

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someone's always creeping in so black

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conspiracies that we hear from exactly

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yeah this kept up I last made contact

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with the airline executive who is now

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retired and living in the southwest

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mountain I don't know anymore not in

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Chicago anymore and we touch bases on

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this just a few years ago and that's the

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last I've heard from him and I because I

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wanted to know if they had indeed you

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know made any contact with the gasolene

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and with the fire extinguisher and so

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all the things which they claimed but it

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seemed to me when I began to

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study you know the the various secret

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societies in Germany that they had there

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was a group that allegedly or seemed to

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come to North America now I also knew

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someone who immediately wrong spirit

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medium who had come from that coal

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mining area in southern Illinois and she

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well you know for whatever information

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you want to credit to a medium she

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happened to be an extraordinary one had

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been examined and tested by several

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groups both here and in the United

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Kingdom

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she tuned in and she said that you know

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she definitely could see the basis and

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she thought back when she was a little

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girl of all the mysterious things that

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would happen in in the pound in southern

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Illinois so you know there's just we

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have mysteries within mysteries in this

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field and you know I find it endlessly

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fascinating to pursue these it's

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difficult sometimes and this I always

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tried to do is to kind of recognize it

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as magic leader Souls because when we

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decided sherry and I decided to get back

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into the UFO field she had worked for

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time just before his death the last two

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years of his life with dr. J Allen Hynek

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and we had I had pretty much gone into

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the paranormal not writing and

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interested in too much UFO because with

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I had run into so many uncomfortable

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situations before we go on we get to our

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next part I have to ask you about the

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uncomfortable situations yeah Brad

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stager joining gene and Chris you're in

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Steiger joining us with Jeanne and Chris

577
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on the power cast when we broke we were

578
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talking about some uncomfortable things

579
00:27:24,430 --> 00:27:20,359
that happened that sort of encouraged

580
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:24,440
you to stay away from UFOs yes the you

581
00:27:31,449 --> 00:27:26,690
know the whole men and black thing which

582
00:27:34,329 --> 00:27:31,459
I think is two-pronged I think there

583
00:27:35,529 --> 00:27:34,339
again getting back to magic theater when

584
00:27:38,169 --> 00:27:35,539
you mention that I'm going to ask you

585
00:27:40,629 --> 00:27:38,179
for specifics in a second I'll just tell

586
00:27:42,819 --> 00:27:40,639
you that I did the stupidest thing in my

587
00:27:44,769 --> 00:27:42,829
life twice I've done a lot of stupid

588
00:27:46,659 --> 00:27:44,779
things but these you know of all the

589
00:27:51,219 --> 00:27:46,669
stupid things I've done I've done this

590
00:27:54,369 --> 00:27:51,229
twice back in 1969 I leased a fire

591
00:27:55,930 --> 00:27:54,379
engine red Pontiac rare Pontiac okay

592
00:27:57,699 --> 00:27:55,940
with the biggest engine was you know

593
00:28:01,299 --> 00:27:57,709
kind of almost like a race car the

594
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:01,309
license plate was three MIB for three

595
00:28:07,209 --> 00:28:04,399
men in black custom license plate within

596
00:28:08,829 --> 00:28:07,219
a thousand miles I tell you the truth I

597
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:08,839
kid you not as someone once said on TV

598
00:28:15,940 --> 00:28:12,049
within a thousand miles the transmission

599
00:28:18,849 --> 00:28:15,950
leaked and had to be overhauled that car

600
00:28:20,709 --> 00:28:18,859
delivered misery after misery finally

601
00:28:21,159 --> 00:28:20,719
made a deal with a dealer to give it

602
00:28:23,049 --> 00:28:21,169
back

603
00:28:25,389 --> 00:28:23,059
I got myself a blue Toyota with a

604
00:28:25,869 --> 00:28:25,399
generic license plate and everything was

605
00:28:28,269 --> 00:28:25,879
fine

606
00:28:32,579 --> 00:28:28,279
well being very stupid I have a Honda

607
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:32,589
now and the license plate is v MIB

608
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:37,129
no okay all right now just the other day

609
00:28:42,669 --> 00:28:40,159
the battery went which is it's not you

610
00:28:44,499 --> 00:28:42,679
know an old car but of course in Arizona

611
00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:44,509
they tell you batteries go very

612
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frequently because of the hot summers

613
00:28:49,959 --> 00:28:46,700
hot weather

614
00:28:55,389 --> 00:28:49,969
okay nothing unusual but I have also had

615
00:28:58,479 --> 00:28:55,399
a year of amazing reverses in my

616
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:58,489
business since using that license plate

617
00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:00,320
and Chris kind of knows what I'm getting

618
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:01,609
in maybe some of our listeners do I

619
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:04,159
won't get into great detail the key is

620
00:29:07,539 --> 00:29:06,049
here I think at this point I should

621
00:29:10,419 --> 00:29:07,549
switch back the license plate to

622
00:29:12,129 --> 00:29:10,429
something more generic you think that do

623
00:29:13,869 --> 00:29:12,139
you think maybe I'm inviting something

624
00:29:15,930 --> 00:29:13,879
by having that license plate I'm serious

625
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:15,940
I think so I

626
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:19,330
serious to you know a few years ago when

627
00:29:24,690 --> 00:29:22,330
we were maybe having lunch together in

628
00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:24,700
New York or talking as we walked the

629
00:29:29,009 --> 00:29:26,409
streets I think we both would have

630
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:29,019
lasted that but at this point I think

631
00:29:35,249 --> 00:29:32,320
one can invite these things and that's

632
00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:35,259
you know the kind of what sherry and I

633
00:29:40,580 --> 00:29:37,830
did when we decided to go back into the

634
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:40,590
research field I think you do invite

635
00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:43,710
things and it gets very uncomfortable

636
00:29:51,629 --> 00:29:47,230
and it's very difficult to stay balanced

637
00:29:55,649 --> 00:29:51,639
you really have to take a time out very

638
00:29:58,769 --> 00:29:55,659
often and gee I didn't know about this

639
00:29:59,369 --> 00:29:58,779
story Jean but I would change license

640
00:30:01,950 --> 00:29:59,379
plates

641
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:01,960
it's funny I wrote to the Arizona motor

642
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:03,370
vehicle Bureau they have a place where

643
00:30:06,810 --> 00:30:05,200
you send an email when you have an

644
00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:06,820
inquiry mm-hmm and I said how do I

645
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:08,470
change the license plate back to the

646
00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:10,090
original I have the original license

647
00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:11,500
plate it's just a matter of changing

648
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:13,870
paperwork I could use it and I said it

649
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:15,850
twice and got no response so maybe they

650
00:30:19,499 --> 00:30:17,679
want me to be stuck in this I'm going to

651
00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:19,509
call them Chris what's your opinion of

652
00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:21,580
it you didn't say anything Chris I mean

653
00:30:25,529 --> 00:30:23,590
you're educated on the tricks or you're

654
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:25,539
the trickster expert on the planet and

655
00:30:29,879 --> 00:30:27,850
when I made this decision you didn't say

656
00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:29,889
gene are you sure you really want to go

657
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:32,549
through with this well you know I

658
00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:35,440
wondered about that gene I I really did

659
00:30:42,869 --> 00:30:38,830
I just didn't want to freak you out as

660
00:30:45,629 --> 00:30:42,879
Brad I'm sure will attest many of these

661
00:30:49,019 --> 00:30:45,639
subject areas that were so fascinated

662
00:30:51,659 --> 00:30:49,029
with tend to be reflective and they tend

663
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:51,669
to mirror back at us what we put towards

664
00:30:57,749 --> 00:30:54,490
them so so I often tell people if I take

665
00:30:59,340 --> 00:30:57,759
them out on sky watches or TV shoots or

666
00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:59,350
whatever at night I say look if

667
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:01,600
something does happen be sure to be as

668
00:31:06,869 --> 00:31:04,480
neutral as possible because if you react

669
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:06,879
in a place of fear you're gonna have

670
00:31:12,509 --> 00:31:09,730
something to be afraid of and I've been

671
00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:12,519
kind of a been a mantra of mine for many

672
00:31:15,930 --> 00:31:14,350
years with people that are going out in

673
00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:15,940
the field and I think this is a perfect

674
00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:17,950
illustration of how reflective these

675
00:31:23,820 --> 00:31:19,870
things can be what do you think Brad

676
00:31:26,450 --> 00:31:23,830
well I I agree totally you know be and I

677
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:26,460
know that you are you know a fellow

678
00:31:32,669 --> 00:31:29,890
trickster and Susie has you

679
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:32,679
in mine mister the time and space back

680
00:31:39,529 --> 00:31:36,010
the 1972 I have the chapter three

681
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:39,539
tricksters in black passport to paranoia

682
00:31:45,419 --> 00:31:42,610
three tricksters in black that's what he

683
00:31:49,169 --> 00:31:45,429
calls it the men in black in the early

684
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:49,179
1970s and this is the what I've

685
00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:52,750
concluded as well is that we and that's

686
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:55,120
why I say magic fever because you enter

687
00:32:01,080 --> 00:31:58,690
you create a separate reality of which

688
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:01,090
at first you were studying from a

689
00:32:05,789 --> 00:32:03,760
distance but when you make the decision

690
00:32:07,950 --> 00:32:05,799
to enter it I know this sounds very

691
00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:07,960
melodramatic but I'm serious at this

692
00:32:15,049 --> 00:32:10,630
point when you make a decision to enter

693
00:32:19,140 --> 00:32:15,059
it then you have to play by rules that

694
00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:19,150
seemingly would not make any sense it's

695
00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:24,340
a whole new dichotomy of reality that

696
00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:28,150
you have to be prepared to explore and

697
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:32,350
that's why I think so many researchers

698
00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:36,610
who began at the same time that I did in

699
00:32:44,909 --> 00:32:42,190
the late 50s and 60s are left the field

700
00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:44,919
long ago because I know some of them had

701
00:32:52,169 --> 00:32:48,880
just very very uncomfortable and even

702
00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:52,179
maddening kind of situations you do have

703
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:54,460
to stay balanced and that's very

704
00:32:59,310 --> 00:32:56,610
difficult when you find yourself

705
00:33:02,760 --> 00:32:59,320
believing that you are totally objective

706
00:33:06,510 --> 00:33:02,770
that you are a balanced individual and

707
00:33:09,380 --> 00:33:06,520
you find yourself dealing with as if you

708
00:33:12,930 --> 00:33:09,390
have suddenly placed yourself into a

709
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:12,940
fantasy novel a science fiction novel or

710
00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:17,049
and I'm going way back now to the say

711
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:20,470
the we people you know there is by the

712
00:33:26,010 --> 00:33:23,440
way ladies and gentlemen a TV show now

713
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:26,020
that depicts suppose fate activities

714
00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:26,530
called

715
00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:30,100
Lost Girl never hear that Canadian TV

716
00:33:35,789 --> 00:33:33,520
series on the Sci Fi Channel Brad but I

717
00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:35,799
didn't know what it was about it's about

718
00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:37,390
the Fae where everybody there has

719
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:39,280
different powers and all like that of

720
00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:42,090
course the fair also depicted in the TV

721
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:45,299
Tru Blood so the folklore and becomes

722
00:33:53,090 --> 00:33:50,850
semi real right alright now that I have

723
00:33:56,419 --> 00:33:53,100
also made contact with individuals who

724
00:33:58,460 --> 00:33:56,429
believe they are I mean they do not look

725
00:34:01,820 --> 00:33:58,470
like Tinkerbell I mean they they look

726
00:34:07,820 --> 00:34:01,830
like kind of smallest regular human

727
00:34:11,899 --> 00:34:07,830
types yeah I think we've known of this

728
00:34:15,770 --> 00:34:11,909
in legend and song and table for

729
00:34:19,940 --> 00:34:15,780
centuries heavenly and I think this is a

730
00:34:22,490 --> 00:34:19,950
very real kind of situation now I made

731
00:34:26,379 --> 00:34:22,500
contact no I didn't make contact it made

732
00:34:31,879 --> 00:34:26,389
contact with me or vice versa when I was

733
00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:31,889
not quite five years old I looked out my

734
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:36,750
bedroom window and saw what I clearly

735
00:34:47,690 --> 00:34:42,570
thought was an elf a fairy standing on

736
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:47,700
the wash pail we just had we didn't have

737
00:34:52,970 --> 00:34:49,770
running water in those days we had to

738
00:34:55,490 --> 00:34:52,980
pump it the well and this was a table

739
00:34:57,530 --> 00:34:55,500
washed tub that I that's what awakened

740
00:34:59,810 --> 00:34:57,540
me was the sound of this being dragged

741
00:35:03,650 --> 00:34:59,820
across the lawn and I looked out and saw

742
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:03,660
this smallish person looking in the

743
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:06,810
kitchen window at my parents and then

744
00:35:14,089 --> 00:35:09,839
very slowly he turned and you know

745
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,099
Felipe's eye contact and in one way or

746
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:17,520
in another I have encountered that being

747
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:20,490
you know all all of my adult life as

748
00:35:27,220 --> 00:35:23,250
well in very interesting kind of

749
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:27,230
situations and in that way I am

750
00:35:33,620 --> 00:35:29,730
Scandinavian American and I feel like

751
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:33,630
I'm inherited peer gynt who you know the

752
00:35:40,730 --> 00:35:38,490
great Norwegian composer created this

753
00:35:42,730 --> 00:35:40,740
story of a man who is followed

754
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:42,740
throughout his entire life by

755
00:35:50,210 --> 00:35:46,980
representative and and the Scandinavian

756
00:35:54,829 --> 00:35:50,220
traditions were very much alive for me

757
00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:54,839
and my family and I feel designed the

758
00:35:59,599 --> 00:35:55,859
hall the hall

759
00:36:01,690 --> 00:35:59,609
having regular haunting phenomena I just

760
00:36:05,479 --> 00:36:01,700
felt that you know I was well prepared

761
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:05,489
for my life of research because I and I

762
00:36:12,140 --> 00:36:08,130
grew up that said our farm home had been

763
00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:12,150
the old stagecoach stop and my sister

764
00:36:18,799 --> 00:36:14,849
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765
00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:18,809
by people walking around in our bedrooms

766
00:36:23,569 --> 00:36:21,660
and period costume we were awakened

767
00:36:25,759 --> 00:36:23,579
several nights the whole family

768
00:36:27,729 --> 00:36:25,769
especially my mother I would run

769
00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:27,739
downstairs to my bedroom and there

770
00:36:33,140 --> 00:36:30,390
because we hear the sounds of horses

771
00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:33,150
carrying a wagon and or stagecoach and

772
00:36:38,359 --> 00:36:35,430
we just look at each other and say well

773
00:36:40,759 --> 00:36:38,369
they're back again there you go again

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telling me your childhood home was

886
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almost a haunted place right yes yes we

887
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had a continuing phenomena it was

888
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interesting

889
00:41:40,770 --> 00:41:36,970
my father would simply observe and not

890
00:41:46,589 --> 00:41:40,780
comment but my my mother and sister and

891
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I we were continually entertained one of

892
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the things that we had and and this is

893
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invite looked it up in the old Norwegian

894
00:42:00,180 --> 00:41:56,730
text it's called the Bard ogre and

895
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:00,190
that's the sound it's almost it was kind

896
00:42:07,620 --> 00:42:03,250
of like a spiritual doppelganger you

897
00:42:11,370 --> 00:42:07,630
hear the sounds of arrival before the

898
00:42:14,609 --> 00:42:11,380
people actually arrive and this is

899
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:14,619
really hard to get in touch with to deal

900
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:18,190
with because I would when I was been a

901
00:42:22,530 --> 00:42:21,910
teenager and my 41 shrivelling I would

902
00:42:24,420 --> 00:42:22,540
come home

903
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:24,430
Saturday night before the rest of the

904
00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:27,370
family and I would be up in my bedroom

905
00:42:32,910 --> 00:42:29,950
and then I would hear the sounds of the

906
00:42:35,390 --> 00:42:32,920
door opening and closing the footsteps

907
00:42:38,910 --> 00:42:35,400
moving around as they got ready for bed

908
00:42:41,550 --> 00:42:38,920
the parakeet would shriek welcome back

909
00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:41,560
to the family I hear all this and then

910
00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:43,720
after a time I would shout down the

911
00:42:49,980 --> 00:42:45,960
stairs good night everyone good night

912
00:42:52,260 --> 00:42:49,990
no answer no answer and about that time

913
00:42:55,290 --> 00:42:52,270
I would see their headlights coming down

914
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:55,300
our very long Lane now the first two

915
00:43:00,990 --> 00:42:58,330
times that happened to say oh my god if

916
00:43:04,310 --> 00:43:01,000
I'm here alone and there's people

917
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:04,320
running through our farm home are they

918
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:07,810
vandalizing are they stealing until you

919
00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:11,920
realize that's the sound of exactly they

920
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:14,620
found that the family will make when

921
00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:17,680
they really do enter the door now again

922
00:43:24,030 --> 00:43:20,590
this has happened again sherry and I are

923
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:24,040
both of Scandinavian American descent

924
00:43:31,290 --> 00:43:27,610
and sherry has been treated to my guard

925
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:31,300
ogre a number of times in in the rare

926
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:33,850
occasions when we are not together I've

927
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:36,370
been checking the mail whatever hearing

928
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:38,170
the sounds come in and so far as I'm

929
00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:41,650
thinking him there and then maybe 5-10

930
00:43:49,020 --> 00:43:45,400
minutes later I am so whether go starve

931
00:43:52,850 --> 00:43:49,030
our Duggar or whatever but growing up in

932
00:43:55,650 --> 00:43:52,860
that environment served me well as

933
00:43:59,400 --> 00:43:55,660
someone who then went for many many

934
00:44:02,670 --> 00:43:59,410
years investigating haunted houses but

935
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:02,680
it did it a disservice a strange

936
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:05,290
disservice to me in another way because

937
00:44:11,550 --> 00:44:08,530
none of these phenomena growing up were

938
00:44:14,130 --> 00:44:11,560
threatening they were not violent they

939
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:14,140
were noisy they pounded on walls and

940
00:44:20,610 --> 00:44:17,440
slam doors but they never touched anyone

941
00:44:22,740 --> 00:44:20,620
they never hurt anyone and the beams

942
00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:22,750
walking through I shouldn't say beings

943
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,870
the entities the phenomena walking

944
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:27,520
through it was like watching a

945
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:30,460
television program on rare occasions who

946
00:44:35,370 --> 00:44:32,560
would make eye contact someone but it

947
00:44:36,180 --> 00:44:35,380
might be accidental did not prepare me

948
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:36,190
then for

949
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:40,050
going out on the larger scale and

950
00:44:46,170 --> 00:44:42,970
encountering entities that were not

951
00:44:51,420 --> 00:44:46,180
pleasant and did not resist punching and

952
00:44:54,059 --> 00:44:51,430
pushing and even smashing doors to

953
00:44:56,730 --> 00:44:54,069
demonstrate the fact that they didn't

954
00:44:58,370 --> 00:44:56,740
walk me there hmm

955
00:45:01,319 --> 00:44:58,380
have some really really interesting

956
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:01,329
points here and one thing that I've

957
00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:04,240
always been intrigued by is some sort of

958
00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:08,079
genetic attraction certain cultures you

959
00:45:14,300 --> 00:45:10,390
you and cherry or Scandinavia Americans

960
00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:14,310
and so so you you seem to have attracted

961
00:45:20,910 --> 00:45:18,790
types of folkloric entities for lack of

962
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:20,920
a better term that correspond with that

963
00:45:27,020 --> 00:45:24,880
genetic makeup do you think that this is

964
00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:27,030
something that needs to be further

965
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:29,950
researched and study I had a very

966
00:45:35,099 --> 00:45:32,160
interesting experience that I

967
00:45:38,730 --> 00:45:35,109
investigated it was a actually a Brujo

968
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:38,740
in training Hispanic guy he was in his

969
00:45:42,839 --> 00:45:39,970
late 20s

970
00:45:43,980 --> 00:45:42,849
he was elk hunting and he heard a twig

971
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:43,990
crack

972
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:47,170
he actually had a bull elk and in his

973
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:49,089
bow and arrow sites who's actually bow

974
00:45:53,660 --> 00:45:51,130
hunting and he turned and looked and it

975
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:53,670
was a leprechaun in the San Luis Valley

976
00:46:01,950 --> 00:45:58,450
and that that particular case has always

977
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:01,960
just boggled my mind how can a Hispanic

978
00:46:06,990 --> 00:46:04,690
Brujo in training see a leprechaun in

979
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:07,000
southern Colorado it just you know we

980
00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:08,710
had another actually sighting by another

981
00:46:12,750 --> 00:46:10,329
Hispanic family a couple of weeks later

982
00:46:14,849 --> 00:46:12,760
so so my question is do you think that

983
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:14,859
there is some sort of genetic attractor

984
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:17,770
quality to to some of these phenomenal

985
00:46:24,270 --> 00:46:20,410
entities and events well it's taken me

986
00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:24,280
till I'm 76 Chris but I've begun to make

987
00:46:29,579 --> 00:46:27,310
that conclusion that these things are

988
00:46:32,490 --> 00:46:29,589
not by chance they are not by

989
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:32,500
coincidence because I no longer believe

990
00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:35,710
in coincidence and a whole ancestor

991
00:46:41,730 --> 00:46:38,950
thing we associate you know with Asia

992
00:46:44,819 --> 00:46:41,740
and sometimes we think that's quaint and

993
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:44,829
and we of course have progressed beyond

994
00:46:49,980 --> 00:46:48,240
that well no no no this is a very viable

995
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:49,990
week

996
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:52,450
and cultural tradition that I think we

997
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:55,210
have to start paying attention to I

998
00:47:00,660 --> 00:46:58,090
found out for example it took me many

999
00:47:03,540 --> 00:47:00,670
many years but what the couple that

1000
00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:03,550
would come and look at my bed down at me

1001
00:47:08,130 --> 00:47:06,070
in my bed I made eye contact with them

1002
00:47:10,650 --> 00:47:08,140
the other entity seemed to be waiting

1003
00:47:13,650 --> 00:47:10,660
for the stagecoach because that had been

1004
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:13,660
the stagecoach stop but I saw them

1005
00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:16,690
pictures when I later in my life and

1006
00:47:21,390 --> 00:47:18,070
that these were my great-great

1007
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:21,400
grandparents they were the first of our

1008
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:23,610
family to live in that house

1009
00:47:29,790 --> 00:47:27,130
so I began then to say well is there

1010
00:47:31,740 --> 00:47:29,800
something to this ancestral lineage you

1011
00:47:36,030 --> 00:47:31,750
know that we do inherit certain things

1012
00:47:40,830 --> 00:47:36,040
now my mother my mother if she had not

1013
00:47:44,460 --> 00:47:40,840
been raised the strict Methodists she

1014
00:47:46,770 --> 00:47:44,470
she easily could have been a medium in

1015
00:47:50,370 --> 00:47:46,780
fact she would have she would

1016
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:50,380
communicate with a small smallish woman

1017
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:52,240
that would come and speak to her at

1018
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:55,090
night and she would advise my father you

1019
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:57,130
know that when there was a storm coming

1020
00:48:00,300 --> 00:47:59,680
it'll be careful there may be hail and

1021
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:00,310
so forth

1022
00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:06,510
and she tells of seeing angels appear

1023
00:48:13,770 --> 00:48:10,780
walking in the road the gravel road

1024
00:48:16,349 --> 00:48:13,780
outside of her home and she saw the

1025
00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:16,359
angel go down and to their neighbor's

1026
00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:19,660
home and the man died that night then

1027
00:48:27,810 --> 00:48:22,150
she and her sister her sister also who

1028
00:48:30,109 --> 00:48:27,820
is extremely solidly based in reality

1029
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:30,119
and no-nonsense kind of person

1030
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,040
substantiates my my mother's account

1031
00:48:38,010 --> 00:48:35,200
because she was with my mother when they

1032
00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:38,020
both saw the angel so there's certainly

1033
00:48:45,660 --> 00:48:41,950
that tradition my paternal grandmother

1034
00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:45,670
was the town librarian and began reading

1035
00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:49,630
you know the Scandinavian legends and so

1036
00:48:54,380 --> 00:48:52,270
forth along with Shakespeare which he

1037
00:48:57,240 --> 00:48:54,390
read to me when I was a child as well

1038
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,250
she was a very literate person she was a

1039
00:49:02,550 --> 00:48:59,520
town library and then most of the town's

1040
00:49:03,749 --> 00:49:02,560
library books were made up of books from

1041
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:03,759
her library that's

1042
00:49:09,139 --> 00:49:06,729
was no longer using she had an enormous

1043
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:09,149
library at home which I just you know

1044
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,649
plowed into every time I stayed

1045
00:49:16,859 --> 00:49:14,079
overnight with Grandma so I think there

1046
00:49:20,189 --> 00:49:16,869
is that which you may not be totally

1047
00:49:22,819 --> 00:49:20,199
conscious of growing up and then things

1048
00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:22,829
start to come together things start to

1049
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:25,599
well for example as I said that little

1050
00:49:33,209 --> 00:49:29,369
elf or whatever has followed me and

1051
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:33,219
trickster aspect never cruel just very

1052
00:49:38,459 --> 00:49:34,559
frustrating

1053
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:38,469
my sister was visiting her son in

1054
00:49:45,929 --> 00:49:43,119
Washington DC last summer and she called

1055
00:49:48,539 --> 00:49:45,939
to ask if I would check the plants in

1056
00:49:50,909 --> 00:49:48,549
their home to see that they had water

1057
00:49:54,479 --> 00:49:50,919
and I said of course now I have her key

1058
00:49:56,819 --> 00:49:54,489
I haven't a special box I have it in a

1059
00:49:59,569 --> 00:49:56,829
special container within that special

1060
00:50:02,429 --> 00:49:59,579
box so I never lose my sister's key I

1061
00:50:05,759 --> 00:50:02,439
went to get it so I could go over and

1062
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:05,769
check her plants and the key was not

1063
00:50:12,029 --> 00:50:09,849
there that key was not there in my box

1064
00:50:15,479 --> 00:50:12,039
within the box within the box was not

1065
00:50:18,389 --> 00:50:15,489
there I go crazy I look all over I don't

1066
00:50:20,939 --> 00:50:18,399
know what I'm going to do I go back and

1067
00:50:23,279 --> 00:50:20,949
forth I think well maybe this key will

1068
00:50:25,769 --> 00:50:23,289
work knowing it won't but you know you

1069
00:50:28,739 --> 00:50:25,779
have to do something so I went back and

1070
00:50:32,759 --> 00:50:28,749
forth and finally I'm about to call her

1071
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:32,769
in DC and say I'm sorry is there someone

1072
00:50:37,409 --> 00:50:35,169
else that has a key when I come back

1073
00:50:40,620 --> 00:50:37,419
after the third time going to see if a

1074
00:50:44,729 --> 00:50:40,630
key would work there is her key on top

1075
00:50:48,659 --> 00:50:44,739
of my telephone oh just another little

1076
00:50:51,899 --> 00:50:48,669
just another little reminder this is

1077
00:50:54,749 --> 00:50:51,909
another little game just another little

1078
00:50:58,049 --> 00:50:54,759
trick just another saying you know I

1079
00:50:59,939 --> 00:50:58,059
haven't left your buddy week we

1080
00:51:04,739 --> 00:50:59,949
connected when you are not quite five

1081
00:51:07,769 --> 00:51:04,749
and we're still bosom buddies the little

1082
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:07,779
critter is still after you still

1083
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:09,209
watching what you're doing hopefully

1084
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:12,130
with a positive intent rather than a

1085
00:51:16,529 --> 00:51:14,049
negative intent we never know

1086
00:51:17,490 --> 00:51:16,539
well obviously just the fun this is fun

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just

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you know but you know what you that

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welcome back to the para cast the gold

1142
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standard of paranormal radio and now

1143
00:54:15,790 --> 00:54:12,770
here's Jane Steinberg the leprechaun or

1144
00:54:17,530 --> 00:54:15,800
trickster want to have a beer with Fred

1145
00:54:19,780 --> 00:54:17,540
stop look I wouldn't tell no leprechaun

1146
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:19,790
of course I would call him an ISA or how

1147
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:22,970
do the folks but that's approximately

1148
00:54:28,330 --> 00:54:26,240
who they are leprechaun would not quite

1149
00:54:31,450 --> 00:54:28,340
relate but I say you know they're each

1150
00:54:33,790 --> 00:54:31,460
we call them the same excuse me

1151
00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:33,800
we call them different names from nation

1152
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:35,750
to nation culture to culture but we're

1153
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:36,950
all talking about the same

1154
00:54:41,790 --> 00:54:39,710
we folk they hidden thought that's what

1155
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:41,800
how little salt means is a hidden folk

1156
00:54:46,540 --> 00:54:44,240
and we're talking about the same

1157
00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:46,550
entities that maybe we're talking about

1158
00:54:50,980 --> 00:54:48,280
when we talked about the men in black

1159
00:54:53,350 --> 00:54:50,990
we're talking about the same entities

1160
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:53,360
when we're talking about the greys or

1161
00:54:59,410 --> 00:54:56,690
we're talking about aliens maybe they're

1162
00:55:01,210 --> 00:54:59,420
alien in the sense that no I don't think

1163
00:55:05,230 --> 00:55:01,220
they're aliens I think they're cousins I

1164
00:55:09,130 --> 00:55:05,240
think they are I think there are cousins

1165
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:09,140
you know they the hidden world is the

1166
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:11,930
underground world and we think of all

1167
00:55:16,860 --> 00:55:14,510
the traditions and the fairy tradition

1168
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:16,870
or the hold of the folk music tradition

1169
00:55:22,930 --> 00:55:20,480
and that's where you get trolls and of

1170
00:55:25,090 --> 00:55:22,940
course trolls are not there are not

1171
00:55:28,030 --> 00:55:25,100
little creatures with big eyes and stick

1172
00:55:30,850 --> 00:55:28,040
weird hair that sticks up trolls are

1173
00:55:33,250 --> 00:55:30,860
very menacing and very large again

1174
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:33,260
you're right there as for them - from

1175
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:37,040
time to time today really I wouldn't

1176
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:40,370
doubt that at all but hey I'm going on

1177
00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:43,610
and on here let's move very very

1178
00:55:48,550 --> 00:55:46,310
interesting about culture and folklore

1179
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:48,560
and the fact that a lot of the things we

1180
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:51,490
talk about in the UFL field are also

1181
00:55:56,770 --> 00:55:54,410
mirroring popular culture and now in the

1182
00:56:00,160 --> 00:55:56,780
last couple of years we've almost gone

1183
00:56:01,870 --> 00:56:00,170
into kind of a folklorist fairy tale

1184
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:01,880
kind of culture and I think in terms of

1185
00:56:07,570 --> 00:56:05,090
what happens on TV and the movies so for

1186
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:07,580
example in the movies ordinary yeah we

1187
00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:09,170
have Snow White and the Huntsman

1188
00:56:14,799 --> 00:56:12,529
in the movie yes we hang version right

1189
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:14,809
different movies one with Charlize

1190
00:56:18,730 --> 00:56:17,210
Theron the other with Julia Roberts but

1191
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:18,740
Julia Roberts didn't make it because the

1192
00:56:22,450 --> 00:56:20,210
other one also had the guy who plays

1193
00:56:24,910 --> 00:56:22,460
Thor and the Avengers was one of the

1194
00:56:27,940 --> 00:56:24,920
stars he was the Huntsman okay on TV

1195
00:56:30,370 --> 00:56:27,950
we've got Grimm on TV we've got Once

1196
00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:30,380
Upon a Time which is where all the

1197
00:56:36,009 --> 00:56:32,660
characters from the fairy tales come to

1198
00:56:38,349 --> 00:56:36,019
life in the 21st century exactly what is

1199
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:38,359
there that his maid shows like that's a

1200
00:56:42,670 --> 00:56:40,730
popular I mean it used to be spaceships

1201
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:42,680
it used to be Star Trek it's still Star

1202
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:45,440
Trek obviously so when did the folklore

1203
00:56:53,069 --> 00:56:47,450
when of the fairy tales come to play I

1204
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:53,079
find it just totally amazing I thought

1205
00:57:02,470 --> 00:56:59,119
it's everything six ago I've just been

1206
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:02,480
astounded by it I really have no

1207
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:06,559
explanation no cogent theory to to speak

1208
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:09,170
at this point I I'm just I'm watching it

1209
00:57:15,099 --> 00:57:10,970
I'm saying how much longer will this

1210
00:57:17,710 --> 00:57:15,109
last I was really amazed when they got a

1211
00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:17,720
Grimm and once upon a time got renewed

1212
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:21,710
for a second season I mean to the honest

1213
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:24,890
I watch to the first once upon a time

1214
00:57:32,170 --> 00:57:29,089
and I couldn't stay with it I I guess I

1215
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:32,180
felt on one level I felt offended if

1216
00:57:36,609 --> 00:57:34,970
nothing's on the level I thought no I

1217
00:57:38,829 --> 00:57:36,619
don't like the approach that they're

1218
00:57:42,579 --> 00:57:38,839
using well obviously other people did

1219
00:57:45,730 --> 00:57:42,589
because it's popular got renewed but I

1220
00:57:49,749 --> 00:57:45,740
just find it astonishing now vampires

1221
00:57:52,509 --> 00:57:49,759
True Blood I knew sooner or later that

1222
00:57:54,460 --> 00:57:52,519
they couldn't stay with vampires because

1223
00:57:56,259 --> 00:57:54,470
you know vampires and what you can't

1224
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:56,269
have vampires for long without having

1225
00:58:00,609 --> 00:57:58,490
werewolves and then you can't have

1226
00:58:05,170 --> 00:58:00,619
werewolves for very long without having

1227
00:58:08,109 --> 00:58:05,180
witches and sorcerers and zombies so I

1228
00:58:11,140 --> 00:58:08,119
thought if this catches on which it did

1229
00:58:12,269 --> 00:58:11,150
they're going to have to add elements

1230
00:58:15,999 --> 00:58:12,279
that probably weren't in the original

1231
00:58:18,430 --> 00:58:16,009
Sookie Stackhouse novels but they keep

1232
00:58:20,140 --> 00:58:18,440
adding elements because again leading

1233
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:20,150
this and and who would guess that

1234
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:22,490
zombies The Walking Dead

1235
00:58:28,990 --> 00:58:25,250
would become one of the most well one of

1236
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:29,000
the very most popular series on cable I

1237
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:31,760
think gene witness have been great Chris

1238
00:58:37,390 --> 00:58:33,770
wouldn't this have been great if this

1239
00:58:40,750 --> 00:58:37,400
would have happened a decade earlier no

1240
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:40,760
we were we were about the only ones with

1241
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:44,089
two three decades earlier we were the

1242
00:58:48,420 --> 00:58:46,160
only ones talking about this with few

1243
00:58:50,410 --> 00:58:48,430
exceptions and I find it just

1244
00:58:53,140 --> 00:58:50,420
astonishing that all those things that

1245
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:53,150
we're talking and writing about in the

1246
00:58:59,890 --> 00:58:57,650
60s is now kind of commonplace everyone

1247
00:59:02,230 --> 00:58:59,900
seems to know about these things or

1248
00:59:05,620 --> 00:59:02,240
become an expert on these things and I'm

1249
00:59:08,410 --> 00:59:05,630
fascinated to see the the people writing

1250
00:59:09,819 --> 00:59:08,420
about traditions which I don't know

1251
00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:09,829
where they're getting the traditions

1252
00:59:14,170 --> 00:59:11,990
because I'm not aware of them but they

1253
00:59:17,470 --> 00:59:14,180
think it's the authentic they think it's

1254
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:17,480
the original that's not it's a whole new

1255
00:59:23,140 --> 00:59:20,690
gospel of these creatures that's being

1256
00:59:25,450 --> 00:59:23,150
presented at this time I can see it now

1257
00:59:29,049 --> 00:59:25,460
gene there's going to be a show out

1258
00:59:31,930 --> 00:59:29,059
there soon featuring a team of

1259
00:59:33,819 --> 00:59:31,940
tricksters going around playing high

1260
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:33,829
jinks on the control structure that's

1261
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:36,410
static in our culture dictating

1262
00:59:41,470 --> 00:59:38,930
everything I'll tell you what Chris what

1263
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:41,480
you have to do Chris is simple let's set

1264
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:43,010
down what they call in Hollywood a

1265
00:59:47,230 --> 00:59:45,290
treatment and register it before the

1266
00:59:48,579 --> 00:59:47,240
Writers Guild so nobody else steals the

1267
00:59:54,010 --> 00:59:48,589
idea because you see the theft in

1268
00:59:56,829 --> 00:59:54,020
Hollywood I mean you just gave it away

1269
00:59:59,470 --> 00:59:56,839
man we have two movies about snow white

1270
01:00:01,870 --> 00:59:59,480
in the same season which some part you

1271
01:00:04,180 --> 01:00:01,880
have two TV shows about fairy tale

1272
01:00:06,490 --> 01:00:04,190
characters premiering on different

1273
01:00:07,870 --> 01:00:06,500
networks you know obviously each one is

1274
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:07,880
reading what the other person is doing

1275
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:09,680
and saying okay they just registered

1276
01:00:15,069 --> 01:00:12,290
this idea they just sold the pilot let's

1277
01:00:17,579 --> 01:00:15,079
come up with an alternate idea and try

1278
01:00:20,410 --> 01:00:17,589
to get in on the glamour or whatever

1279
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:20,420
right we'll get rosemary guiley to do

1280
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:23,599
treatment for a show on the gin that

1281
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:25,130
would be great I could see it now guys

1282
01:00:31,870 --> 01:00:28,210
of protecting the poppy crops over in

1283
01:00:32,859 --> 01:00:31,880
Afghanistan American military guys and

1284
01:00:34,930 --> 01:00:32,869
all of a sudden they're dealing with

1285
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:34,940
these these gin characters there have

1286
01:00:38,380 --> 01:00:36,530
been a couple of sci-fi movies

1287
01:00:41,230 --> 01:00:38,390
I think that I'm kind of briefly looked

1288
01:00:44,290 --> 01:00:41,240
at that subject but but I think Bradbury

1289
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:44,300
point what two three decades ago was

1290
01:00:49,690 --> 01:00:46,250
just inconceivable now it's commonplace

1291
01:00:51,550 --> 01:00:49,700
and in people have I think generally I

1292
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:51,560
think people the the level of awareness

1293
01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:54,290
has risen to a point with these types of

1294
01:00:59,980 --> 01:00:57,110
subjects not only are you know viable

1295
01:01:01,690 --> 01:00:59,990
they're actually popular and I'm not

1296
01:01:04,210 --> 01:01:01,700
sure what that says about our culture I

1297
01:01:06,700 --> 01:01:04,220
think I think it's disenfranchisement

1298
01:01:08,890 --> 01:01:06,710
and disenchantment with with the

1299
01:01:11,230 --> 01:01:08,900
scientific community I think we're

1300
01:01:13,450 --> 01:01:11,240
seeing a wider and wider separation

1301
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:13,460
between scientific material realism and

1302
01:01:18,010 --> 01:01:16,640
and fantasy and there's something really

1303
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:18,020
important going on there

1304
01:01:23,230 --> 01:01:20,930
I think it's distrust the think of think

1305
01:01:26,980 --> 01:01:23,240
think of this Chris they wouldn't be

1306
01:01:29,350 --> 01:01:26,990
seeing these dramas without the science

1307
01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:29,360
that makes it possible for them to sit

1308
01:01:35,590 --> 01:01:31,550
in their living rooms so it's a strange

1309
01:01:39,730 --> 01:01:35,600
combination of irony of the the

1310
01:01:43,710 --> 01:01:39,740
alternate reality and the traditional so

1311
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:43,720
I've been wondering too if if people

1312
01:01:50,140 --> 01:01:46,850
have this hunger within for the old

1313
01:01:53,740 --> 01:01:50,150
tradition if we were just hardwired at

1314
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:53,750
one time in our ancient past to accept

1315
01:01:59,440 --> 01:01:57,410
these kind of accounts as explanations

1316
01:02:02,860 --> 01:01:59,450
for things that will always remain

1317
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:02,870
mysteries with this whole tradition of

1318
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:06,130
the fairy lore I think many people

1319
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:09,710
besides we researchers see the

1320
01:02:15,130 --> 01:02:12,050
connection at least on some level of how

1321
01:02:17,070 --> 01:02:15,140
close this is to the reports of

1322
01:02:19,390 --> 01:02:17,080
abduction people being taken away

1323
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:19,400
thinking they're gone for a year and

1324
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:22,010
it's been only two days thinking they'd

1325
01:02:26,290 --> 01:02:23,810
been gone for two days and it's been a

1326
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:26,300
month that's part of the whole UFO

1327
01:02:34,030 --> 01:02:30,650
tradition as well as the ecclesiastic

1328
01:02:36,940 --> 01:02:34,040
isms of ethology if we can say that well

1329
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:36,950
we have these same laws so to speak in

1330
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:39,650
traditions in the fairy lore which is

1331
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:42,490
now incredibly coming out in our

1332
01:02:49,730 --> 01:02:46,690
advanced technology before we sat around

1333
01:02:52,550 --> 01:02:49,740
campfires we sat around the

1334
01:02:55,790 --> 01:02:52,560
dining room table and told these stories

1335
01:02:59,870 --> 01:02:55,800
now it's it's instantly a mass

1336
01:03:03,800 --> 01:02:59,880
communication maybe some intelligence is

1337
01:03:07,130 --> 01:03:03,810
kicking us at that folk Lord level maybe

1338
01:03:10,670 --> 01:03:07,140
we hunger for that maybe we hunger for

1339
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:10,680
the kind of answers and and solutions

1340
01:03:14,750 --> 01:03:13,200
that that particular tradition gives us

1341
01:03:17,450 --> 01:03:14,760
I'm just saying so many people are

1342
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:17,460
disenfranchised from the world that we

1343
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:20,970
face now and maybe science has failed us

1344
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:22,530
that might be another theory we could

1345
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:24,810
look into science has failed us so we go

1346
01:03:30,290 --> 01:03:28,410
back to the legends of folklore of

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course we still use science when you

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as the para cast rats Tiger joining us

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with Jean and Chris you're in the

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great job that the Fed will stop handing

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out trillions of dollars like bailout

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there for you that's not what's

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happening

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para cast calm Chris is slowly building

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his trickster voice again it's been a

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while we haven't done trickster stuff

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and now you're seeing bass man this is

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exactly where I was hoping the show

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would go because boy you helped uh you

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know right there instruction manual on

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dealing with these subjects many years

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ago of course I you know I have to give

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a nod to the very important book I think

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passports in Magana by Jacques filet

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which was I think his greatest work

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actually which really drills down on

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this subject the subject of of the

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traditions of a wee folk and in fairies

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and elves and goblins and trolls and how

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that kind of morphs into a modern

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technological sense here in the modern

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age and I think this is really crucial

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ground that too many people have ignored

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for too long you are one of the few

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pioneers that have really approached

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this subject in in a real objective way

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and hats off to you I think you and

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sherry have done great work in all the

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you know the just the whole myriad of

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subjects that you've written about in

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research but this particular aspect is

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is one that I find very very crucial and

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I'm really glad we're having this

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conversation well and in that regard

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that's kind of what we're dealing with

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in the book in progress a book in

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progress tell me more well I'm not gonna

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say much more than that but it's dealing

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with kind of well I don't know if it's a

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tangent or not but it for some reason I

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just felt we should we should go here

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maybe because I know gene is completely

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open and I know that Chris is a fellow

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trooper goodness area some fellow

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theorists that certainly Chris that

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you'd like I can send you so

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in regard if you would like to maintain

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contributions oh man I'd be honored yeah

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so maybe we can make connection on that

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I I know it's unfair genes is to talk

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about and then move away but if it's

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basically encounters examining what they

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are are they part of this ancient

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tradition are they part of a incredibly

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new advanced almost magical technology

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are they occurring in other dimensions

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of reality are we translating the

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untranslatable in our present

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01:10:43,550 --> 01:10:40,030
understanding of what is real

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are we translating these encounters into

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a feeder a manifestation that we can

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deal with and perhaps never seeing the

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actual never seeing what we're dealing

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with we're only getting bits in pieces

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which we then are translating as best we

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can

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using the traditions and the knowledge

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of science and the evolution of our

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thoughts from ancient time to present to

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interpret them how did that make it

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01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:19,389
perfectly clear I'm liking it I've

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01:11:24,209 --> 01:11:21,730
always thought that whatever it is that

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here with us in this closed system and I

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really do believe most and I used to

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believe word which I never do but in

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:29,679
this case I believe that we are dealing

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with energies and intelligences that are

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as terrestrial as we are and they're

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only couching their appearance and

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01:11:40,979 --> 01:11:39,219
pretending to look like aliens so that

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we can actually deal with their

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manifestation because what they truly

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are we couldn't deal with now that Chris

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because we have a lot of people there

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who have been brought up in the legends

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of UFOs being et and all that stuff so

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01:12:01,919 --> 01:11:59,650
you'd suggest then Chris that the form

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in which they take if we solve their

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01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:04,120
real form we'd be too frightened to deal

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01:12:10,260 --> 01:12:07,050
with it well I think to gobsmacked in

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01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:10,270
flummoxed for lack of better word I

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01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:13,690
think it's couching itself ene guys that

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01:12:18,510 --> 01:12:15,490
we're able to I

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01:12:20,910 --> 01:12:18,520
iíd and actually deal with on some

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01:12:23,460 --> 01:12:20,920
emotional and intellectual level I I

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01:12:26,130 --> 01:12:23,470
think it's all being done it's it's all

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01:12:29,070 --> 01:12:26,140
theater there's there's this incredible

1555
01:12:32,370 --> 01:12:29,080
theatricality that's involved in the so

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01:12:35,550 --> 01:12:32,380
called your subject and I think it's all

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01:12:37,740 --> 01:12:35,560
being done in a premeditated manner to

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01:12:40,020 --> 01:12:37,750
hide the true nature of what that

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01:12:42,330 --> 01:12:40,030
intelligence or intelligences really are

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01:12:45,150 --> 01:12:42,340
there you go you just said what I said

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01:12:47,700 --> 01:12:45,160
in another way Chris and I agree

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01:12:51,420 --> 01:12:47,710
completely that that is the position

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01:12:54,780 --> 01:12:51,430
that I have evolved from those days

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01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:54,790
being back in New York when we went to

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01:13:01,680 --> 01:12:58,090
the UFO conferences and we were very

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01:13:02,970 --> 01:13:01,690
excited because they're here I mean we

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01:13:06,060 --> 01:13:02,980
were nuts-and-bolts

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01:13:08,970 --> 01:13:06,070
unashamedly and I unabashedly say it now

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:08,980
we were nuts and both then we totally

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01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:10,810
accepted that we were excited by that

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01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:13,810
they have come we've made connection

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01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:17,770
well over the years as I just indicated

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01:13:24,330 --> 01:13:21,730
and as Chris just expressed so very very

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01:13:27,090 --> 01:13:24,340
well that is essentially the position

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:27,100
that I'm taking now and that we

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01:13:32,340 --> 01:13:29,770
basically been kind of leading up to and

1577
01:13:34,260 --> 01:13:32,350
book after book and this one is when

1578
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:34,270
we're really going to get into it

1579
01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:36,880
Jungian archetypes the works you know

1580
01:13:42,030 --> 01:13:39,910
how messes together you're talking my

1581
01:13:44,010 --> 01:13:42,040
language you have to be talking here of

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01:13:46,830 --> 01:13:44,020
course to an audience that is steeped in

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01:13:49,050 --> 01:13:46,840
et and we have to show them that there

1584
01:13:51,780 --> 01:13:49,060
are other directions and I know we've

1585
01:13:53,790 --> 01:13:51,790
gotten into where ufology is going on

1586
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:53,800
several episodes safe two weeks ago we

1587
01:13:58,350 --> 01:13:55,840
had Nick Redfern talking about the

1588
01:14:01,470 --> 01:13:58,360
future of ufology and kind of suggesting

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01:14:03,150 --> 01:14:01,480
that basically if we didn't go anywhere

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01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:03,160
with it fifty or hundred years from now

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01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:04,930
we'd be dredging out the same old cases

1592
01:14:10,110 --> 01:14:07,690
we'd be talking about Roswell and Aztec

1593
01:14:12,090 --> 01:14:10,120
and any crash that has not been

1594
01:14:13,530 --> 01:14:12,100
mentioned in those two and now we're

1595
01:14:17,130 --> 01:14:13,540
trying to look at a different answer

1596
01:14:20,190 --> 01:14:17,140
that may be always allowing Jane that

1597
01:14:22,980 --> 01:14:20,200
the extra-terrestrial theories may be

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01:14:24,690 --> 01:14:22,990
valid in some ways and saying that we're

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01:14:29,010 --> 01:14:24,700
not saying there isn't life and outer

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01:14:31,620 --> 01:14:29,020
space and this is not to say though

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01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:31,630
venting what some people would say is an

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01:14:38,010 --> 01:14:34,930
alternate alternate theory we're not

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01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:38,020
saying that there is not life on other

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01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:41,170
planets we're not saying that perhaps in

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01:14:47,300 --> 01:14:43,990
the very ancient 450 million years ago

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01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:47,310
that all this didn't start with an

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01:14:54,030 --> 01:14:50,080
extraterrestrial source we're simply

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01:14:57,540 --> 01:14:54,040
saying that what we have now is probably

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01:15:00,480 --> 01:14:57,550
a phenomena that has always been with it

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even before we became an upright

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intelligent species so maybe these are

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the true owners of our planet

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you know I reminds me there's a movie

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out right now and maybe you've heard of

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it the one that produced by Joss Whedon

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called The Cabin in the Woods it's kind

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of all about that about the true owners

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of Earth I'm glad you said that because

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we were going to watch it tonight but

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Sara thought it was a horror film and

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she doesn't like slasher films well it's

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a kind of a horror film but there's an

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underlying theme - yeah yeah and it's a

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mixture of reality show horror film

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zombies um who are the true owners of

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01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:42,220
this planet and what must we do what

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01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:43,810
horrible things must we do to our

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population every so often to appease

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them sounds good I know it's been on the

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show for what three six years something

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like that it's only got more when your

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top floor with the college kids and now

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of course he's I think he's in the movie

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and and he was just I think that was his

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first movie and he of course has moved

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on than other areas right that's right

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that's right anyway we have Brad Steiger

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he's written so many books I can't

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mention them all he's got a new title

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that is not being mentioned although we

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might have some participation from our

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own Chris O'Brien in that title we have

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am a recent second edition of real

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ghosts restless spirits and haunted

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ninety nine steel today hi this is Don

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Ecker and you are tuned in to the para

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cast let me tell you what you're gonna

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01:21:03,140 --> 01:21:00,180
hear stuff here that you probably won't

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01:21:07,700 --> 01:21:03,150
hear anywhere else hear that George

1762
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:07,710
Noory chris is now getting into his full

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01:21:15,170 --> 01:21:10,410
trickster mode I can hear him cackling I

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01:21:16,940 --> 01:21:15,180
guess I can't hear I never know when he

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01:21:19,220 --> 01:21:16,950
does that I always think he's trying to

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be a ventriloquist or there's a little

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dummy you know like a little dummy

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remember that movie with Anthony Hopkins

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where the dummy takes control of the

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01:21:34,190 --> 01:21:32,400
person okay so that's what's happening

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01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:34,200
with Chris here I'm kidding

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01:21:38,210 --> 01:21:36,480
but you'll watch the cabin in the woods

1773
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:38,220
and let me know what you think about

1774
01:21:42,380 --> 01:21:40,170
next time we have you on but do you

1775
01:21:45,410 --> 01:21:42,390
think that maybe there is a force on

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01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:45,420
earth crypto terrestrials whatever that

1777
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:48,000
really expects to be managing everything

1778
01:21:53,090 --> 01:21:50,010
that's going on or do we just attract

1779
01:21:56,450 --> 01:21:53,100
mystical forces well I think that is

1780
01:21:59,780 --> 01:21:56,460
check all of the above okay I think to

1781
01:22:02,150 --> 01:21:59,790
say seeking to manage it I think we

1782
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:02,160
would probably egotistical to think that

1783
01:22:06,650 --> 01:22:04,800
we haven't been managed all along but

1784
01:22:08,210 --> 01:22:06,660
then that's kind of depressing because

1785
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:08,220
we like to feel we are

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01:22:12,590 --> 01:22:10,410
captains of our own sight masters of our

1787
01:22:16,990 --> 01:22:12,600
own destiny and sometimes it's very

1788
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:17,000
difficult to say well maybe I'm not so

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01:22:23,530 --> 01:22:21,210
freezing hot after all maybe I do have

1790
01:22:26,540 --> 01:22:23,540
to recognize that there are forces

1791
01:22:29,060 --> 01:22:26,550
beyond my control and none of us really

1792
01:22:31,970 --> 01:22:29,070
like to do that you know we especially

1793
01:22:35,060 --> 01:22:31,980
were brought up in this nation were made

1794
01:22:38,150 --> 01:22:35,070
to feel that we are are all masters of

1795
01:22:40,910 --> 01:22:38,160
our own destiny and that's left a big

1796
01:22:44,450 --> 01:22:40,920
imprint you know watching the Gary

1797
01:22:47,900 --> 01:22:44,460
Cooper movies and the movies of my use

1798
01:22:50,860 --> 01:22:47,910
that were all pretty much rah rah rugged

1799
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:50,870
individualism and this is something that

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01:22:57,170 --> 01:22:54,210
we take pride in I think rightfully so

1801
01:22:59,930 --> 01:22:57,180
but then we have to be open that you

1802
01:23:03,440 --> 01:22:59,940
know maybe we're not masters of this

1803
01:23:07,940 --> 01:23:03,450
planet maybe there are others living

1804
01:23:10,180 --> 01:23:07,950
here that share it with us and have been

1805
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:10,190
sharing it with us as an alternate

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01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:13,650
species as they not as the Bourdon of

1807
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:17,130
species but perhaps its superior one as

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01:23:22,340 --> 01:23:19,890
I said be the we peoples in whatever you

1809
01:23:26,540 --> 01:23:22,350
want to call them a hugger folk than

1810
01:23:29,810 --> 01:23:26,550
this of the puck in his merry band it

1811
01:23:33,290 --> 01:23:29,820
may be a companion species who really

1812
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:33,300
are older and wiser much wiser than we

1813
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:36,930
are and tolerate us tolerate us and from

1814
01:23:42,530 --> 01:23:39,840
time to time they appear in one guy's or

1815
01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:42,540
another to offer their advice or

1816
01:23:49,340 --> 01:23:44,880
sometimes if we're getting a little too

1817
01:23:53,660 --> 01:23:49,350
big for our britches purposely give us

1818
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:53,670
false information so that we proceed at

1819
01:24:00,530 --> 01:23:57,570
a measure that someone else has laid out

1820
01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:00,540
for us and that becomes repugnant to

1821
01:24:05,420 --> 01:24:03,360
many of us because we don't want anyone

1822
01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:05,430
dictating our direction

1823
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:09,120
yes you know Brad that also happens with

1824
01:24:14,270 --> 01:24:12,000
organized religion where we surrender to

1825
01:24:16,850 --> 01:24:14,280
the Almighty that's being subservient to

1826
01:24:19,370 --> 01:24:16,860
someone or to governments where we

1827
01:24:22,339 --> 01:24:19,380
accept their authority right I was just

1828
01:24:24,379 --> 01:24:22,349
leading up to that and exactly my palm

1829
01:24:27,169 --> 01:24:24,389
you know we have that choice to make

1830
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:27,179
well we we want to be co-equals

1831
01:24:33,589 --> 01:24:30,090
we want to be Co contributors to our

1832
01:24:36,409 --> 01:24:33,599
destiny and I think that is whatever you

1833
01:24:39,139 --> 01:24:36,419
want to say now as we develop that the

1834
01:24:41,419 --> 01:24:39,149
free will that we certainly feel when

1835
01:24:44,449 --> 01:24:41,429
we're weird in the environment of a

1836
01:24:47,179 --> 01:24:44,459
republic as we have been we don't want

1837
01:24:49,009 --> 01:24:47,189
to be subservient and yet we do make

1838
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:49,019
that compromise with organized religion

1839
01:24:55,599 --> 01:24:52,800
at least many of us do so we have this

1840
01:24:59,119 --> 01:24:55,609
conflict I think that is an age-old

1841
01:25:02,719 --> 01:24:59,129
centuries-old eons old that we as

1842
01:25:05,469 --> 01:25:02,729
individuals must find our own compromise

1843
01:25:10,580 --> 01:25:05,479
and if we don't want to compromise then

1844
01:25:14,349 --> 01:25:10,590
we're kind of the outsider I I agree I

1845
01:25:17,689 --> 01:25:14,359
think this is such complicated and and

1846
01:25:19,250 --> 01:25:17,699
there's it's like a I forget who came up

1847
01:25:21,889 --> 01:25:19,260
with the term but it's like Kahala Mears

1848
01:25:23,629 --> 01:25:21,899
with quicksand floors you know as soon

1849
01:25:25,609 --> 01:25:23,639
as you turn left you realize you should

1850
01:25:27,049 --> 01:25:25,619
have turned right as soon as you look up

1851
01:25:29,449 --> 01:25:27,059
you realize you your ears should have

1852
01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:29,459
been on the ground it's almost like

1853
01:25:36,020 --> 01:25:32,159
whatever this intelligence is it has the

1854
01:25:38,509 --> 01:25:36,030
ability to guess or understand where

1855
01:25:41,540 --> 01:25:38,519
we're actually gonna go as investigators

1856
01:25:44,389 --> 01:25:41,550
as scientists as you know pundants even

1857
01:25:46,219 --> 01:25:44,399
and and that's why the whole thing about

1858
01:25:49,449 --> 01:25:46,229
the trickster I think really fascinates

1859
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:49,459
me because there there seems to be a

1860
01:25:54,619 --> 01:25:52,050
intelligent design it's it's it's

1861
01:25:57,020 --> 01:25:54,629
pre-emptive it's pre reactionary and

1862
01:25:59,529 --> 01:25:57,030
that to me is always fascinated me about

1863
01:26:01,879 --> 01:25:59,539
this whole subject area and you know

1864
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:01,889
where do you think this is going I have

1865
01:26:06,679 --> 01:26:03,570
a really good question here from one of

1866
01:26:08,359 --> 01:26:06,689
our forum posters Brad named sand him

1867
01:26:12,229 --> 01:26:08,369
fire he's been on the on the boards here

1868
01:26:14,330 --> 01:26:12,239
for several years and he asked now that

1869
01:26:16,279 --> 01:26:14,340
the paranormal frenzy of TV shows and

1870
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:16,289
expensive weekend seminars with

1871
01:26:20,989 --> 01:26:18,449
so-called paranormal celebrities is on

1872
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:20,999
the wane where do you see the field of

1873
01:26:26,330 --> 01:26:22,800
paranormal research of investigation

1874
01:26:27,799 --> 01:26:26,340
going from here how do we re Institute a

1875
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:27,809
quality of professionalism and

1876
01:26:32,599 --> 01:26:30,090
scientific inquiry into investigating

1877
01:26:35,810 --> 01:26:32,609
and researching such topics as ghosts

1878
01:26:36,589 --> 01:26:35,820
UFOs multi Universal portals multi

1879
01:26:38,089 --> 01:26:36,599
universal

1880
01:26:39,979 --> 01:26:38,099
portals and all matters of high

1881
01:26:45,859 --> 01:26:39,989
strangeness good question

1882
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:45,869
yes it is yes it is and I don't want to

1883
01:26:57,109 --> 01:26:51,050
offend anyone please but I think the

1884
01:27:02,119 --> 01:26:57,119
deluge of paranormal programming of the

1885
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:02,129
reality nature I think is working

1886
01:27:09,229 --> 01:27:05,280
against us for getting acceptance it's

1887
01:27:12,279 --> 01:27:09,239
become just as Network news as large

1888
01:27:15,169 --> 01:27:12,289
they become entertainment we don't have

1889
01:27:19,219 --> 01:27:15,179
well maybe maybe some networks are still

1890
01:27:21,259 --> 01:27:19,229
news but if we go to our tables we we

1891
01:27:24,319 --> 01:27:21,269
don't really have news we have

1892
01:27:26,679 --> 01:27:24,329
commentary and I think the same thing

1893
01:27:29,540 --> 01:27:26,689
has happened now with psychical research

1894
01:27:33,020 --> 01:27:29,550
and I'm not saying that you know it was

1895
01:27:35,810 --> 01:27:33,030
due I mean it should only be a few of us

1896
01:27:37,549 --> 01:27:35,820
who are so enlightened and so special

1897
01:27:40,939 --> 01:27:37,559
I'm not saying that at all

1898
01:27:43,759 --> 01:27:40,949
but by making its entire lasting where

1899
01:27:46,669 --> 01:27:43,769
we have program asked a program of I

1900
01:27:48,469 --> 01:27:46,679
don't know who these experts are I mean

1901
01:27:50,779 --> 01:27:48,479
it was wherever occasions is there

1902
01:27:53,239 --> 01:27:50,789
anyone I know of in the field but

1903
01:27:56,060 --> 01:27:53,249
suddenly they are authorities they go

1904
01:27:57,949 --> 01:27:56,070
all the dark at night they bump into

1905
01:28:00,770 --> 01:27:57,959
each other and say hey something touched

1906
01:28:03,290 --> 01:28:00,780
me and then you so much and he never

1907
01:28:06,020 --> 01:28:03,300
solved the case they just go into place

1908
01:28:08,659 --> 01:28:06,030
and and scare each other that's not what

1909
01:28:10,339 --> 01:28:08,669
it is to investigate a haunted house at

1910
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:10,349
heart and no bosepandi

1911
01:28:17,239 --> 01:28:13,050
and and I think that home I mean I'm

1912
01:28:21,469 --> 01:28:17,249
just amazed at how many programs there

1913
01:28:24,379 --> 01:28:21,479
are that deal with some Authority who is

1914
01:28:26,659 --> 01:28:24,389
self-appointed I guess and has convinced

1915
01:28:29,119 --> 01:28:26,669
some producer and director that he is an

1916
01:28:30,919 --> 01:28:29,129
authority or she is an authority and I'm

1917
01:28:33,469 --> 01:28:30,929
not meaning to offend I'm just saying

1918
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:33,479
where did they come from locals are back

1919
01:28:37,429 --> 01:28:35,489
on what of the literature do they know

1920
01:28:39,619 --> 01:28:37,439
what do they know the history of

1921
01:28:42,379 --> 01:28:39,629
psychical research you know you

1922
01:28:45,290 --> 01:28:42,389
mentioned some some very established

1923
01:28:46,939 --> 01:28:45,300
names like crooks and so forth and some

1924
01:28:48,919 --> 01:28:46,949
of the research that they did and

1925
01:28:50,420 --> 01:28:48,929
William James they don't know who you're

1926
01:28:53,630 --> 01:28:50,430
talking about

1927
01:28:57,050 --> 01:28:53,640
their background isn't the same they

1928
01:28:59,690 --> 01:28:57,060
have it's just as we have in the movies

1929
01:29:02,240 --> 01:28:59,700
right now we don't have young directors

1930
01:29:04,940 --> 01:29:02,250
and writers who have read literature who

1931
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:04,950
have read books we have people producing

1932
01:29:10,420 --> 01:29:08,370
movies we'll have only seen movies and

1933
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:10,430
that's why we have I think such a

1934
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:13,050
repetition and the sameness and monotony

1935
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:15,090
to our films well I think this

1936
01:29:20,660 --> 01:29:17,610
incredible day eludes or the paranormal

1937
01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:20,670
programming is setting serious research

1938
01:29:26,650 --> 01:29:24,000
back that I do not going to say 20 years

1939
01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:26,660
I don't know I just think it's that a

1940
01:29:33,410 --> 01:29:30,450
serious acceptance of our research it's

1941
01:29:36,110 --> 01:29:33,420
now looked like anyone can do it anyone

1942
01:29:38,210 --> 01:29:36,120
hey gang instead of let's have that

1943
01:29:40,850 --> 01:29:38,220
musical as Judy Garland and Mickey

1944
01:29:42,410 --> 01:29:40,860
Rooney used to say it's hey gang after

1945
01:29:43,340 --> 01:29:42,420
the football game let's go through a

1946
01:29:45,890 --> 01:29:43,350
haunted house

1947
01:29:49,730 --> 01:29:45,900
oh hey gang let's go work the Ouija

1948
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:49,740
board again it's that situation that has

1949
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:52,290
we been warned against since the coke

1950
01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:55,530
dealer wrote his take on American

1951
01:30:02,270 --> 01:29:59,040
society is the common denominator does

1952
01:30:07,370 --> 01:30:02,280
dissipate and stretch the reality or the

1953
01:30:10,970 --> 01:30:07,380
validity of particular areas to such a

1954
01:30:14,270 --> 01:30:10,980
common acceptance that it's it loses its

1955
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:14,280
specialness its loses its seriousness as

1956
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:17,610
research and become simply anyone can do

1957
01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:19,890
it anyone can talk to a ghost

1958
01:30:25,670 --> 01:30:23,360
anyone can haunt a house and we just

1959
01:30:28,430 --> 01:30:25,680
watered it down too much

1960
01:30:30,140 --> 01:30:28,440
I saw a reality show culture brag we'll

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get into more of this in a moment man we

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other amendments and the Declaration of

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01:32:02,060 --> 01:31:59,850
Independence but who has the time to

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study wouldn't it be nice if you could

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simply listen to them and wouldn't it be

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great if they came packaged with an

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index yep and index that let you go to

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any part of the founding documents just

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by punching in a track number on your

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computer or CD player what exactly is

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the 9th amendment track 10-way it's that

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simple the founding documents collection

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on audio CD to get yours now just go to

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amazon.com and type in founding

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documents collection CD for just 1995

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have the firepower you need to argue

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from the ultimate facts that form our

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nation's foundation want to be a hero

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get one for you and give another to your

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local school for Constitution Day go to

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amazon.com now

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and type in founding documents

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collection CD that's what it sounds like

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01:32:56,740 --> 01:32:55,040
when a burglar kicks in the door of a

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01:32:57,250 --> 01:32:56,750
dark house that looks like no one is

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01:33:03,550 --> 01:32:57,260
home

2018
01:33:05,620 --> 01:33:03,560
watching television with fake TV fake TV

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01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:05,630
is a small electronic device that makes

2020
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:07,760
the same light as a real television so

2021
01:33:11,950 --> 01:33:09,410
from outside it looks like someone is

2022
01:33:13,990 --> 01:33:11,960
home watching TV fake TV plugs in just

2023
01:33:16,330 --> 01:33:14,000
like a lamp on a timer but is far more

2024
01:33:18,490 --> 01:33:16,340
convincing to burglars fake TV deters

2025
01:33:20,530 --> 01:33:18,500
burglars costs far less than an alarm

2026
01:33:22,630 --> 01:33:20,540
and is highly recommended by numerous

2027
01:33:25,090 --> 01:33:22,640
police departments use it anytime you're

2028
01:33:29,170 --> 01:33:25,100
away from home to order your fake TV for

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only 3495 go to fake tv.com or call one

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additional fake TV is only 29.95 so get

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one for you and one for a loved one for

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safety security and peace of mind for

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both of you call 877 five fa ke TV or go

2035
01:33:51,130 --> 01:33:48,380
to fake TV calm fake TV calm the burglar

2036
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:51,140
deterrent the worst drought in 50 years

2037
01:33:54,940 --> 01:33:53,090
continues and the first six months of

2038
01:33:57,850 --> 01:33:54,950
2012 marks the hottest half year on

2039
01:34:00,100 --> 01:33:57,860
record 78% of the Midwest Corn Belt is

2040
01:34:02,470 --> 01:34:00,110
in drought conditions not only corn soy

2041
01:34:04,990 --> 01:34:02,480
alfalfa fruits vegetables and we are all

2042
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:05,000
impacted raising prices the cost to feed

2043
01:34:08,410 --> 01:34:06,770
livestock is forcing farmers and

2044
01:34:10,660 --> 01:34:08,420
ranchers out of business blowing up your

2045
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:10,670
food prices the only strategy to counter

2046
01:34:14,380 --> 01:34:12,770
this is to freeze your food cost in

2047
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:14,390
today's prices by getting your own

2048
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:16,610
supply of foods for me foods direct now

2049
01:34:20,020 --> 01:34:18,410
as the price of raw ingredients

2050
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:20,030
increases be food will have to raise

2051
01:34:23,980 --> 01:34:21,890
prices - now is the time to get your

2052
01:34:25,450 --> 01:34:23,990
supply I recently increased my supply

2053
01:34:27,130 --> 01:34:25,460
for me foods correct because we've all

2054
01:34:29,140 --> 01:34:27,140
known this was coming you know about

2055
01:34:31,390 --> 01:34:29,150
their delicious long-term storable foods

2056
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:31,400
the fact is you can eat at any time to

2057
01:34:34,870 --> 01:34:33,050
save money today and because it stores

2058
01:34:36,970 --> 01:34:34,880
for 25 years they're locking in today's

2059
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:36,980
prices and avoiding the rising food cost

2060
01:34:47,380 --> 01:34:43,610
wait call 800 492 long /lx all 800 or

2061
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:47,390
o95 633 or even sûreté comm 4 / alex you

2062
01:34:58,180 --> 01:34:55,930
hello this is rosemary ellen guiley and

2063
01:35:09,729 --> 01:34:58,190
you're listening to the podcast the gold

2064
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:09,739
standard of paranormal radio we're Brett

2065
01:35:13,930 --> 01:35:12,110
Steiger joining us this week on the

2066
01:35:16,570 --> 01:35:13,940
power cast after an absence of a couple

2067
01:35:18,130 --> 01:35:16,580
of years he is a prolific person with

2068
01:35:19,990 --> 01:35:18,140
loads and loads of books out there you

2069
01:35:22,660 --> 01:35:20,000
look up Brad Steiger and he owns half of

2070
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:22,670
the catalogue over at Amazon I think his

2071
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:24,770
most recent book real ghosts restless

2072
01:35:30,190 --> 01:35:27,530
spirits in haunted places 2nd edition he

2073
01:35:32,590 --> 01:35:30,200
is working on an untitled piece Chris

2074
01:35:35,140 --> 01:35:32,600
was asking questions from our forum

2075
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:35,150
members at forum dr. Peric ascom Chris

2076
01:35:39,610 --> 01:35:37,610
you got some more questions I do indeed

2077
01:35:42,190 --> 01:35:39,620
this one comes from pixel Smith who is

2078
01:35:44,860 --> 01:35:42,200
arguably I think our longest poster he's

2079
01:35:48,610 --> 01:35:44,870
been around since 2006 posting that

2080
01:35:50,620 --> 01:35:48,620
forum dr. Peric ascom and he starts out

2081
01:35:54,340 --> 01:35:50,630
by acknowledging your role in his

2082
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:54,350
process similar to mine and Brad is one

2083
01:35:58,360 --> 01:35:56,090
the one who got me interested in UFOs

2084
01:36:01,090 --> 01:35:58,370
and I was just a kid he was a friend of

2085
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:01,100
my aunt Irene and she had all his books

2086
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:02,810
available for me to read sounds like

2087
01:36:06,970 --> 01:36:04,850
your grandma actually you know the one

2088
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:06,980
you went over there and was she had that

2089
01:36:09,490 --> 01:36:08,570
wonderful library that actually turned

2090
01:36:11,500 --> 01:36:09,500
into a library

2091
01:36:13,990 --> 01:36:11,510
Brad his first question is have you

2092
01:36:15,310 --> 01:36:14,000
views concerning the UFO field changed

2093
01:36:17,110 --> 01:36:15,320
over the years I think we kind of

2094
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:17,120
briefly touched on that but the second

2095
01:36:21,910 --> 01:36:19,010
the second question I think is a good

2096
01:36:23,950 --> 01:36:21,920
one what subjects fascinate you the most

2097
01:36:25,930 --> 01:36:23,960
now that you have researched and written

2098
01:36:29,500 --> 01:36:25,940
about so many topics over the years I

2099
01:36:32,740 --> 01:36:29,510
guess it remains the same the prehistory

2100
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:32,750
of humankind as I dealt with in worlds

2101
01:36:38,140 --> 01:36:36,050
before our own and in mysteries of time

2102
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:38,150
and space who are we really

2103
01:36:44,050 --> 01:36:42,050
now in the worlds before our own I

2104
01:36:47,620 --> 01:36:44,060
predicted then that it wouldn't just be

2105
01:36:50,290 --> 01:36:47,630
Homo sapiens and Neanderthals but there

2106
01:36:50,830 --> 01:36:50,300
would be at least five or six hominins

2107
01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:50,840
be

2108
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:54,510
existing at one time in our early

2109
01:37:01,580 --> 01:36:58,320
history and we've made it now with Denis

2110
01:37:05,380 --> 01:37:01,590
LaVon lands found in Siberia in the last

2111
01:37:08,930 --> 01:37:05,390
couple of years and we're pushing

2112
01:37:13,300 --> 01:37:08,940
recognized archeology anthropology is

2113
01:37:16,610 --> 01:37:13,310
pushing our history as a species or

2114
01:37:20,810 --> 01:37:16,620
companion species farther and farther

2115
01:37:23,210 --> 01:37:20,820
back and we recognize and that it wasn't

2116
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:23,220
just Homo sapiens in the end at all

2117
01:37:27,650 --> 01:37:25,250
walking around at the same time in

2118
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:27,660
interbreeding but there were at least

2119
01:37:32,480 --> 01:37:30,570
three we have the florensis you know the

2120
01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:32,490
little people who seem to be in the

2121
01:37:39,290 --> 01:37:35,760
hobbits yeah individuals and then we

2122
01:37:41,630 --> 01:37:39,300
have as I said tanishav on mana now in

2123
01:37:43,610 --> 01:37:41,640
Siberia and I think we're going to be

2124
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:43,620
finding more and more in South America

2125
01:37:51,970 --> 01:37:48,210
and as the ice melts I think we may see

2126
01:37:55,490 --> 01:37:51,980
more and more evidence of a very

2127
01:37:58,370 --> 01:37:55,500
advanced prehistoric civilization that

2128
01:37:59,450 --> 01:37:58,380
existed before the Ice Age well that's

2129
01:38:02,510 --> 01:37:59,460
very interesting

2130
01:38:04,730 --> 01:38:02,520
more and more artifacts that's a really

2131
01:38:07,730 --> 01:38:04,740
good point you know with the retreat of

2132
01:38:09,470 --> 01:38:07,740
the the ice layers up at the poles

2133
01:38:12,290 --> 01:38:09,480
especially at the North Pole I think

2134
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:12,300
you're right uncovers some really cool

2135
01:38:18,110 --> 01:38:15,330
evidence so go ahead and Antarctica we

2136
01:38:20,300 --> 01:38:18,120
also make some startling discoveries do

2137
01:38:22,580 --> 01:38:20,310
you in making these predictions have any

2138
01:38:26,510 --> 01:38:22,590
idea when it's gonna happen and if it

2139
01:38:29,570 --> 01:38:26,520
happens we'll we even reveal it good

2140
01:38:33,980 --> 01:38:29,580
point in Spanish that the Dave

2141
01:38:37,480 --> 01:38:33,990
revelation of many cities and temples

2142
01:38:40,370 --> 01:38:37,490
that have been found very recently I

2143
01:38:43,310 --> 01:38:40,380
think we're going to find more evidence

2144
01:38:46,910 --> 01:38:43,320
and this I said in worlds before our own

2145
01:38:49,850 --> 01:38:46,920
- and that's why you might remember Jane

2146
01:38:52,910 --> 01:38:49,860
at the time the book was I think there

2147
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:52,920
were articles and newspaper accounts and

2148
01:38:56,660 --> 01:38:54,690
articles calling for the book to be

2149
01:38:59,810 --> 01:38:56,670
burned because I was insulting both

2150
01:39:01,940 --> 01:38:59,820
science and religion but in that I

2151
01:39:03,670 --> 01:39:01,950
suggested and really insulting some

2152
01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:03,680
people not intending to

2153
01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:05,450
that we're going to find the cradle of

2154
01:39:11,500 --> 01:39:08,960
civilization was in South America not in

2155
01:39:14,770 --> 01:39:11,510
the tigris-euphrates valleys and not in

2156
01:39:16,540 --> 01:39:14,780
Sumer they certainly may have coexisted

2157
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:16,550
that's that's one thing we're finding

2158
01:39:22,930 --> 01:39:20,090
too with these hominid species we had

2159
01:39:26,410 --> 01:39:22,940
out of Africa and that's probably where

2160
01:39:30,310 --> 01:39:26,420
Homo sapiens came from yes but now some

2161
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:30,320
people are recognizing and I had after

2162
01:39:35,230 --> 01:39:32,090
I'd written an article I had one of the

2163
01:39:38,380 --> 01:39:35,240
professors involved in the dig of the

2164
01:39:41,290 --> 01:39:38,390
city that they found in the lake went

2165
01:39:44,650 --> 01:39:41,300
dry in Russia four or five years ago

2166
01:39:47,260 --> 01:39:44,660
they found a city no one knew about that

2167
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:47,270
they said was at least the equal is not

2168
01:39:53,620 --> 01:39:49,850
superior to Athens at the height of

2169
01:39:56,500 --> 01:39:53,630
exploring in a laid bottom of a lake in

2170
01:39:59,110 --> 01:39:56,510
Russia so this man said you know we

2171
01:40:01,390 --> 01:39:59,120
don't want to get into a racist thing

2172
01:40:04,660 --> 01:40:01,400
that they're arguing against about out

2173
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:04,670
of Africa but he agreed with my premise

2174
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:08,330
that the evolution of what became Homo

2175
01:40:15,100 --> 01:40:11,330
sapiens and humankind today and these

2176
01:40:19,060 --> 01:40:15,110
hominid species probably evolved in both

2177
01:40:23,050 --> 01:40:19,070
Asia parts of Europe South America and

2178
01:40:25,690 --> 01:40:23,060
Africa at the same time now that is

2179
01:40:28,510 --> 01:40:25,700
going to open up several doors to the

2180
01:40:31,300 --> 01:40:28,520
people who like the ancient astronaut

2181
01:40:33,220 --> 01:40:31,310
theory and those of us who say that

2182
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:33,230
maybe we had a little help in our

2183
01:40:38,740 --> 01:40:36,050
genetic engineering along the way but

2184
01:40:42,730 --> 01:40:38,750
we're just going to I feel in the next

2185
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:42,740
10 years have so many discoveries and

2186
01:40:47,940 --> 01:40:45,890
revelations that the old textbooks are

2187
01:40:50,710 --> 01:40:47,950
just going to all have to be rewritten

2188
01:40:53,230 --> 01:40:50,720
but I can't wait for that I'll tell you

2189
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:53,240
I've always had a sneaking hunch that we

2190
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:57,250
we just academia and in modern science

2191
01:41:00,910 --> 01:41:00,320
are not omnipotent they don't know

2192
01:41:03,250 --> 01:41:00,920
everything

2193
01:41:05,170 --> 01:41:03,260
and anytime new discoveries that are

2194
01:41:07,540 --> 01:41:05,180
paradigm shifting in our understanding

2195
01:41:09,390 --> 01:41:07,550
of reality any time these things surface

2196
01:41:13,990 --> 01:41:09,400
I think it's really good for us because

2197
01:41:16,270 --> 01:41:14,000
it shows the infallibility of accepted

2198
01:41:17,199 --> 01:41:16,280
thinking or you know whatever is the

2199
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:17,209
accepted

2200
01:41:22,449 --> 01:41:20,090
gnorm in academia and it's always good

2201
01:41:24,669 --> 01:41:22,459
to have these guys realize that they

2202
01:41:27,399 --> 01:41:24,679
don't know everything and I think this

2203
01:41:29,529 --> 01:41:27,409
would also help people you know become

2204
01:41:32,529 --> 01:41:29,539
more in touch with the scientific and

2205
01:41:34,870 --> 01:41:32,539
academic communities and in will temper

2206
01:41:37,390 --> 01:41:34,880
this enthusiasm to jump towards the

2207
01:41:40,689 --> 01:41:37,400
fantasy in the highest range I think we

2208
01:41:43,029 --> 01:41:40,699
have these scientists and and experts on

2209
01:41:44,949 --> 01:41:43,039
such you know high ivory towers that

2210
01:41:47,109 --> 01:41:44,959
they've removed themselves from from the

2211
01:41:48,850 --> 01:41:47,119
average Joe and the average Joe is gonna

2212
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:48,860
want to watch Twilight or some of these

2213
01:41:54,310 --> 01:41:52,249
you know ghost hunting shows that kind

2214
01:41:56,799 --> 01:41:54,320
of fills the gap in their in their their

2215
01:41:58,000 --> 01:41:56,809
sense of inquisitiveness and in these

2216
01:42:00,129 --> 01:41:58,010
types of discoveries that you're

2217
01:42:03,819 --> 01:42:00,139
predicting I think are are really

2218
01:42:05,259 --> 01:42:03,829
important for the average guy moving

2219
01:42:07,299 --> 01:42:05,269
forward in his understanding but also

2220
01:42:08,890 --> 01:42:07,309
his connection with the scientific and

2221
01:42:10,660 --> 01:42:08,900
academic communities I think that's a

2222
01:42:12,250 --> 01:42:10,670
really good point I have another

2223
01:42:14,049 --> 01:42:12,260
question for you here this is a little

2224
01:42:16,239 --> 01:42:14,059
bit off topic I really love where you're

2225
01:42:18,429 --> 01:42:16,249
going with this and and I really hope

2226
01:42:20,469 --> 01:42:18,439
you're right but this comes from peril

2227
01:42:22,330 --> 01:42:20,479
reality st. he's Benny

2228
01:42:24,939 --> 01:42:22,340
he posed her here at Forum dr. Perik

2229
01:42:26,290 --> 01:42:24,949
asked calm a couple of years and he

2230
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:26,300
would like to know what you think about

2231
01:42:31,029 --> 01:42:29,090
her got poisoning and the possible

2232
01:42:33,580 --> 01:42:31,039
influence this might have had on early

2233
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:33,590
descriptions about lycanthropy and its

2234
01:42:37,779 --> 01:42:35,449
changes in mental and physical behavior

2235
01:42:39,819 --> 01:42:37,789
could this have been the basis for the

2236
01:42:43,449 --> 01:42:39,829
eventual werewolf we know of today and

2237
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:43,459
if so did he see or did you see a change

2238
01:42:47,649 --> 01:42:45,650
evolved from an explanation of a real

2239
01:42:49,719 --> 01:42:47,659
phenomenon the disease into a more

2240
01:42:53,379 --> 01:42:49,729
mythical monster type characterization

2241
01:42:55,660 --> 01:42:53,389
let's say of say Lon Chaney's beastly

2242
01:42:58,600 --> 01:42:55,670
persona kind of a long question but I

2243
01:43:04,029 --> 01:42:58,610
think he get the gist of it ya know I

2244
01:43:06,459 --> 01:43:04,039
deal with the ergot poisoning in my

2245
01:43:09,069 --> 01:43:06,469
werewolf book which is also in that

2246
01:43:12,279 --> 01:43:09,079
second edition came out last year at

2247
01:43:16,959 --> 01:43:12,289
this time the ergot poisoning of course

2248
01:43:20,140 --> 01:43:16,969
occurred much later in the lycanthropy

2249
01:43:22,719 --> 01:43:20,150
tradition of the werewolf tradition but

2250
01:43:27,759 --> 01:43:22,729
let's remember that there is a time what

2251
01:43:30,850 --> 01:43:27,769
we all wanted to be werewolves the wolf

2252
01:43:33,850 --> 01:43:30,860
and the human came together

2253
01:43:38,770 --> 01:43:33,860
and evolves together the human in the

2254
01:43:41,919 --> 01:43:38,780
canine evolved together and have

2255
01:43:45,970 --> 01:43:41,929
established a bond in a relationship

2256
01:43:48,220 --> 01:43:45,980
that has not failed and it is stronger

2257
01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:48,230
today than ever with our connection with

2258
01:43:55,870 --> 01:43:50,800
our canine pets but there was a time

2259
01:43:58,590 --> 01:43:55,880
when we all danced like wolves before we

2260
01:44:03,790 --> 01:43:58,600
went on the hunt to bring our wolf

2261
01:44:05,859 --> 01:44:03,800
character alive so this goes way back at

2262
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:05,869
least a hundred and twenty thousand

2263
01:44:10,660 --> 01:44:08,690
years ago when we all wanted to be wolf

2264
01:44:13,390 --> 01:44:10,670
when the wolf was the great teacher

2265
01:44:16,570 --> 01:44:13,400
both sherry and I had studied with

2266
01:44:19,689 --> 01:44:16,580
shaman and had been adopted into

2267
01:44:22,750 --> 01:44:19,699
different tribes and we are presently a

2268
01:44:26,410 --> 01:44:22,760
member of the Seneca wolf teaching

2269
01:44:27,550 --> 01:44:26,420
society and the shaman teaches that wolf

2270
01:44:30,850 --> 01:44:27,560
is a great teacher

2271
01:44:34,060 --> 01:44:30,860
wolf is the one that taught us all we

2272
01:44:37,300 --> 01:44:34,070
know about being civilized and that is

2273
01:44:41,350 --> 01:44:37,310
true we based our pattern of our family

2274
01:44:43,180 --> 01:44:41,360
on the wolf so way back hundred and

2275
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:43,190
twenty thousand years ago we were

2276
01:44:49,899 --> 01:44:46,639
becoming wolf's literally as we danced

2277
01:44:54,129 --> 01:44:49,909
then as we progressed we had a

2278
01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:54,139
Valentine's Day is a celebration of the

2279
01:44:59,859 --> 01:44:57,110
werewolf or wolf and that's long before

2280
01:45:01,870 --> 01:44:59,869
the earth got apathetic I have to ask

2281
01:45:04,649 --> 01:45:01,880
you more about that because that is

2282
01:45:07,090 --> 01:45:04,659
fascinating and it raises so many

2283
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:07,100
considerations by the way the book the

2284
01:45:11,370 --> 01:45:09,050
brats talking about is the werewolf book

2285
01:45:14,169 --> 01:45:11,380
the encyclopedia of shape-shifting

2286
01:45:15,910 --> 01:45:14,179
beings and that came out last year in

2287
01:45:17,950 --> 01:45:15,920
the second edition still available

2288
01:45:21,250 --> 01:45:17,960
yeah Brad stager joining gene and Chris

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2348
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:04,270
gene and Chris in the para cast and no

2349
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:05,970
we're not talking about Lon Chaney jr.

2350
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:09,010
or anyone else that adopted the persona

2351
01:48:15,020 --> 01:48:12,970
of the wolf of course in movies we think

2352
01:48:18,420 --> 01:48:15,030
that werewolves are evil creatures right

2353
01:48:20,940 --> 01:48:18,430
mm-hmm and of course we wouldn't want to

2354
01:48:24,300 --> 01:48:20,950
meet the type of werewolves that's in

2355
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:24,310
the movies or when someone genuinely

2356
01:48:34,350 --> 01:48:28,930
have life entropy which is recognized as

2357
01:48:36,990 --> 01:48:34,360
a psychological illness and there are

2358
01:48:40,260 --> 01:48:37,000
some stories you know people who have

2359
01:48:43,100 --> 01:48:40,270
been well I've heard from people who

2360
01:48:46,380 --> 01:48:43,110
believe that is in their tradition and

2361
01:48:48,450 --> 01:48:46,390
asked their families to lock them up two

2362
01:48:52,530 --> 01:48:48,460
days before the photo and then two days

2363
01:48:55,440 --> 01:48:52,540
after and only hand them raw meat I have

2364
01:48:59,070 --> 01:48:55,450
a college classmate who is in charge

2365
01:49:01,530 --> 01:48:59,080
went on in medicine she's in charge of

2366
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:01,540
an asylum and somewhere in the eastern

2367
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:04,480
states who says that when the full moon

2368
01:49:10,650 --> 01:49:08,890
is available the blue flu breaks out or

2369
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:10,660
the white whatever their smocks they

2370
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:13,210
wear no one wants to work when the full

2371
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:15,370
moon because of the effects that it has

2372
01:49:20,460 --> 01:49:18,130
on the patient's there and of course we

2373
01:49:23,610 --> 01:49:20,470
have Orthodox Sciences say there's

2374
01:49:25,860 --> 01:49:23,620
nothing at all to the full moon theory

2375
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:25,870
they've exposed that there's nonsense

2376
01:49:30,900 --> 01:49:27,850
but that's about asking the police

2377
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:30,910
officers they handle ins and the the

2378
01:49:36,510 --> 01:49:33,850
first responders and so forth the full

2379
01:49:39,660 --> 01:49:36,520
moon has this traditional effect or this

2380
01:49:42,780 --> 01:49:39,670
Orthodox he wants to recognize it or not

2381
01:49:45,810 --> 01:49:42,790
but I was saying Valentine's Day there

2382
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:45,820
was no st. Valentine he's a creation of

2383
01:49:50,430 --> 01:49:48,250
the church who felt that they had to

2384
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:50,440
have some figures who

2385
01:49:56,250 --> 01:49:53,650
with actual sexual love in romance but

2386
01:49:59,040 --> 01:49:56,260
there was a festival that took place in

2387
01:50:02,640 --> 01:49:59,050
Rome ancient Rome again long before the

2388
01:50:07,110 --> 01:50:02,650
ergot phenomena men would run through

2389
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:07,120
with roulette eclipses and with women

2390
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:09,250
and try to wrap it around themselves

2391
01:50:15,150 --> 01:50:12,850
they were playing the part of wolves and

2392
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:15,160
the preying wolves so I think it's

2393
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:17,530
interesting to note that Valentine's Day

2394
01:50:22,260 --> 01:50:20,110
really began in this ancient ritual and

2395
01:50:24,420 --> 01:50:22,270
and that became instead of sending

2396
01:50:26,910 --> 01:50:24,430
Valentine's of course they just whipped

2397
01:50:30,030 --> 01:50:26,920
with the little the little letters long

2398
01:50:32,790 --> 01:50:30,040
which would signify the woman that they

2399
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:32,800
had their eyes and attention on so the

2400
01:50:40,260 --> 01:50:36,610
wolf and humankind humankind and the

2401
01:50:43,350 --> 01:50:40,270
canine is just inseparable throughout we

2402
01:50:45,870 --> 01:50:43,360
had we evolved together sure but I

2403
01:50:48,450 --> 01:50:45,880
assume you don't believe that people who

2404
01:50:51,030 --> 01:50:48,460
think they're werewolves actually make

2405
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:51,040
the physical transformation I've had

2406
01:50:57,300 --> 01:50:53,770
people call in on various talk shows and

2407
01:51:01,140 --> 01:50:57,310
say that they they do that they have a

2408
01:51:04,620 --> 01:51:01,150
film of them doing that I always welcome

2409
01:51:07,110 --> 01:51:04,630
I want to see them and thus far Jane

2410
01:51:10,530 --> 01:51:07,120
I've never received any film

2411
01:51:12,570 --> 01:51:10,540
we have people then in their minds who

2412
01:51:14,430 --> 01:51:12,580
think they become wolves and they can

2413
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:14,440
become dangerous they can become

2414
01:51:22,740 --> 01:51:19,330
dangerous but not I I would have little

2415
01:51:24,450 --> 01:51:22,750
office yeah if someone has that physical

2416
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:24,460
ability then you know that it would be

2417
01:51:29,910 --> 01:51:26,800
startling that if there really truly

2418
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:29,920
worse shape sisters who are Homo sapiens

2419
01:51:35,790 --> 01:51:32,290
madly there may be shape sisters but

2420
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:35,800
they relate more to our cousin species

2421
01:51:41,010 --> 01:51:38,770
than to our own so you don't believe for

2422
01:51:43,979 --> 01:51:41,020
example but a human being will turn into

2423
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:43,989
a rat or a wolf it kind of reminds me of

2424
01:51:48,750 --> 01:51:47,170
one of the final of the Wolfman series

2425
01:51:50,970 --> 01:51:48,760
which was either house of Frankenstein

2426
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:50,980
house of Dracula the original Universal

2427
01:51:55,890 --> 01:51:53,770
series where one of the mad scientist's

2428
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:55,900
was trying to theorize why Larry top it

2429
01:52:00,209 --> 01:51:58,239
becomes a wolf and he said he can

2430
01:52:02,580 --> 01:52:00,219
measure changes in the brain coupled

2431
01:52:04,050 --> 01:52:02,590
quote with his belief in other words

2432
01:52:06,890 --> 01:52:04,060
that he believed he was turning to

2433
01:52:09,900 --> 01:52:06,900
Wolffe accomplished the fact and we

2434
01:52:13,500 --> 01:52:09,910
believed we became wolves when we danced

2435
01:52:17,220 --> 01:52:13,510
before the hunt in prehistoric times so

2436
01:52:20,250 --> 01:52:17,230
belief of course can do a lot it can

2437
01:52:22,830 --> 01:52:20,260
perhaps accelerate hair growth perhaps

2438
01:52:25,740 --> 01:52:22,840
the growth of the nails but in terms of

2439
01:52:28,050 --> 01:52:25,750
a complete physiological change I if

2440
01:52:30,500 --> 01:52:28,060
someone claims they can do that I know

2441
01:52:33,510 --> 01:52:30,510
that we would all like to witness it

2442
01:52:35,850 --> 01:52:33,520
how about skinwalkers have you an injury

2443
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:35,860
done very much research into the subject

2444
01:52:40,380 --> 01:52:38,530
of de neige a darker depths that are

2445
01:52:42,210 --> 01:52:40,390
allegedly able to shape-shift into the

2446
01:52:46,890 --> 01:52:42,220
various animal forms after donning the

2447
01:52:52,710 --> 01:52:46,900
skin of that animal we have both worked

2448
01:52:57,090 --> 01:52:52,720
with a shaman and the Navajo lived in

2449
01:53:01,350 --> 01:52:57,100
Arizona we had well some people the book

2450
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:01,360
I did medicine power way back in the

2451
01:53:08,510 --> 01:53:05,410
early early 70s I dealt with some of the

2452
01:53:13,970 --> 01:53:08,520
Navajo testimony of the skinwalkers and

2453
01:53:16,980 --> 01:53:13,980
one man was an accredited academic

2454
01:53:19,350 --> 01:53:16,990
psychologist psychiatrist but also

2455
01:53:22,820 --> 01:53:19,360
Navajo who claims you know that he had

2456
01:53:25,530 --> 01:53:22,830
worked with individuals then I had

2457
01:53:28,500 --> 01:53:25,540
others came that they would be sitting

2458
01:53:31,860 --> 01:53:28,510
for the bus stop and the wolf would run

2459
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:31,870
up to them on hind legs and then our

2460
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:33,850
coyote excuse me would run up on their

2461
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:35,650
hind legs and then take off and they

2462
01:53:39,630 --> 01:53:38,650
knew that was the shapeshifter that was

2463
01:53:43,170 --> 01:53:39,640
a skinwalker

2464
01:53:45,690 --> 01:53:43,180
and then one of my few novels was the

2465
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:45,700
chin D which deals with that kind of

2466
01:53:52,950 --> 01:53:48,610
phenomena someone who has that ability

2467
01:53:55,500 --> 01:53:52,960
to possess animals not to become an

2468
01:53:57,930 --> 01:53:55,510
animal that to possess animal to do his

2469
01:54:01,410 --> 01:53:57,940
evil bidding which again is the

2470
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:01,420
tradition of the chin D in since we're

2471
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:03,730
on the subject of wolves this comes from

2472
01:54:09,180 --> 01:54:06,130
a fairly new addition to our family at

2473
01:54:12,780 --> 01:54:09,190
Forum dr. Perik asked calm it's spooky

2474
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:12,790
Mulder and he asked mr. Steiger you once

2475
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:14,890
mentioned on another radio show of an

2476
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:16,800
investigation you did with a witness

2477
01:54:22,790 --> 01:54:19,890
reported a sighting involving a 2d

2478
01:54:25,460 --> 01:54:22,800
holographic animated big bad wolf and

2479
01:54:28,130 --> 01:54:25,470
three little pigs I would like for him

2480
01:54:30,620 --> 01:54:28,140
to expound on that because I once had a

2481
01:54:32,780 --> 01:54:30,630
sighting of a 2d holographic animated

2482
01:54:35,780 --> 01:54:32,790
caterpillar that had a face that

2483
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:35,790
resembled the romper room B and no I

2484
01:54:45,350 --> 01:54:38,330
wasn't hallucinating I was too young

2485
01:54:47,660 --> 01:54:45,360
can you be too young to question III

2486
01:54:50,780 --> 01:54:47,670
don't know if there's any age limit but

2487
01:54:52,850 --> 01:54:50,790
I think I know what it means he wasn't

2488
01:54:55,310 --> 01:54:52,860
on hallucinogens I think is actually how

2489
01:55:00,880 --> 01:54:55,320
was I and no I wasn't on a loosely

2490
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:03,800
in an interesting phenomena and we

2491
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:06,450
wonder about that and I wanted to Bob

2492
01:55:11,300 --> 01:55:08,970
that way back when I started researching

2493
01:55:13,670 --> 01:55:11,310
and having people see aliens and peoples

2494
01:55:16,730 --> 01:55:13,680
that ghosts and so forth and people say

2495
01:55:20,150 --> 01:55:16,740
I chronic the door digs when we call the

2496
01:55:24,290 --> 01:55:20,160
Nordic entities and and you remember way

2497
01:55:27,770 --> 01:55:24,300
back in the sixties and 50 that we had a

2498
01:55:30,170 --> 01:55:27,780
much more diverse cast of characters in

2499
01:55:33,770 --> 01:55:30,180
youth laisse now it seems to be limited

2500
01:55:35,870 --> 01:55:33,780
to those pesky mean little greys but

2501
01:55:41,420 --> 01:55:35,880
there was a time when we had the Daleks

2502
01:55:44,570 --> 01:55:41,430
and we had the large cockroaches and we

2503
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:44,580
had small hairy dark dwarves in South

2504
01:55:51,260 --> 01:55:48,810
America exactly did which they still

2505
01:55:55,130 --> 01:55:51,270
seeing down there I think it's important

2506
01:55:57,650 --> 01:55:55,140
no BOTS just talk about that it isn't

2507
01:56:00,020 --> 01:55:57,660
that phenomena that you know we're still

2508
01:56:01,490 --> 01:56:00,030
seeing the little doors down in South

2509
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:01,500
America we've just got a bunch of

2510
01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:03,930
reports the other day but there's a

2511
01:56:09,380 --> 01:56:06,960
seeing Nursery Rhyme characters the

2512
01:56:12,940 --> 01:56:09,390
person who relayed this to me I have

2513
01:56:15,530 --> 01:56:12,950
great confidence that he was truly

2514
01:56:18,830 --> 01:56:15,540
telling me what he believed to be the

2515
01:56:20,810 --> 01:56:18,840
truth but he proceeded the truth and the

2516
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:20,820
only thing that I would say in that

2517
01:56:27,770 --> 01:56:24,330
regard is Chris just as we were talking

2518
01:56:30,319 --> 01:56:27,780
earlier about they're using the energy

2519
01:56:33,870 --> 01:56:30,329
they're using what they see in Armagh

2520
01:56:36,810 --> 01:56:33,880
to present themselves in a way that can

2521
01:56:38,910 --> 01:56:36,820
be acceptable but maybe frightening to

2522
01:56:41,489 --> 01:56:38,920
us but they they think it's something we

2523
01:56:44,839 --> 01:56:41,499
would understand is that somehow

2524
01:56:47,489 --> 01:56:44,849
whatever was in this particular

2525
01:56:50,100 --> 01:56:47,499
witness's mind happened to be the big

2526
01:56:51,180 --> 01:56:50,110
bad wolf now maybe because the man was

2527
01:56:54,180 --> 01:56:51,190
frightened

2528
01:56:57,419 --> 01:56:54,190
maybe he regressed to his childhood when

2529
01:56:59,310 --> 01:56:57,429
to take bad wolf which he did frightened

2530
01:57:00,390 --> 01:56:59,320
him you know and the line reverses the

2531
01:57:02,310 --> 01:57:00,400
primal symbol law

2532
01:57:04,589 --> 01:57:02,320
I think that's yeah that's that's the

2533
01:57:07,169 --> 01:57:04,599
only explanation I would have for that

2534
01:57:09,689 --> 01:57:07,179
but it's just what we were saying which

2535
01:57:11,370 --> 01:57:09,699
you know we have to recognize not

2536
01:57:13,890 --> 01:57:11,380
everyone will agree with the theory that

2537
01:57:16,500 --> 01:57:13,900
Chris and I were responding a while back

2538
01:57:19,290 --> 01:57:16,510
but I think that would explain why some

2539
01:57:22,500 --> 01:57:19,300
people would see you know the big bad

2540
01:57:24,839 --> 01:57:22,510
wolf or would see some monster from his

2541
01:57:28,020 --> 01:57:24,849
or her childhood we have to look for

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01:57:30,419 --> 01:57:28,030
these monsters or benefactors depending

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on your point of view that Brad stager

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joining us with gene and Chris you're in

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para cast calm thank heavens Chris

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O'Brien is not howling okay no howling

2652
02:02:10,890 --> 02:02:06,199
although we talked about the

2653
02:02:13,780 --> 02:02:10,900
shapeshifters oh we've got a problem

2654
02:02:16,419 --> 02:02:13,790
we have rats Tiger joining us he's

2655
02:02:19,300 --> 02:02:16,429
written books about anything related to

2656
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the paranormal and I think we might

2657
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:20,929
still have a question or two left in our

2658
02:02:26,979 --> 02:02:24,170
forms before we go on we do this was a

2659
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:26,989
little off topic it comes from a poster

2660
02:02:30,550 --> 02:02:28,730
who I don't see very often on the forum

2661
02:02:32,979 --> 02:02:30,560
but because you're on the program he's

2662
02:02:36,010 --> 02:02:32,989
come out of the woodwork at forum dr.

2663
02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:36,020
Peric ascom question are you aware of

2664
02:02:40,959 --> 02:02:38,210
the notion that the Illuminati founded

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in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt

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and I'm never been been able to

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02:02:46,810 --> 02:02:44,239
pronounce that name we're actually

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trying to infiltrate and use mysticism

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02:02:52,660 --> 02:02:50,030
as a bait to trap German that theosophy

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02:02:54,879 --> 02:02:52,670
and mystics into disassociating the

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coming enlightenment from its hermetic

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02:02:58,750 --> 02:02:57,020
origins what do you think of the

2673
02:03:00,970 --> 02:02:58,760
possibility of these Illuminati were

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02:03:04,149 --> 02:03:00,980
simply trying to sever modern scientific

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02:03:05,570 --> 02:03:04,159
knowledge from its in parentheses

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02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:05,580
possible

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02:03:11,780 --> 02:03:08,610
ancient roots interesting question that

2678
02:03:15,230 --> 02:03:11,790
is a very interesting question and it

2679
02:03:19,010 --> 02:03:15,240
could be as well as any for the

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02:03:21,650 --> 02:03:19,020
motivation of vice up to have organized

2681
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:21,660
he was a college professor of course he

2682
02:03:26,210 --> 02:03:23,490
may have that's that's a very

2683
02:03:27,830 --> 02:03:26,220
interesting premise and I appreciate

2684
02:03:30,830 --> 02:03:27,840
individual serving it

2685
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:30,840
we know that today the Illuminati is

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02:03:37,310 --> 02:03:34,890
blamed for everything from various wars

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02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:37,320
and high cholesterol and everything else

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02:03:42,740 --> 02:03:40,170
it seems we have the alot in Guwahati

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which in our conspiracy book we dealt

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02:03:48,590 --> 02:03:45,330
with it links the Illuminati as a

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02:03:51,530 --> 02:03:48,600
mystical Society there in a couple of

2692
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:51,540
centuries before in Spain there was a

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02:03:55,550 --> 02:03:53,610
group of monks who call themselves the

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02:03:58,100 --> 02:03:55,560
Illuminati and that was more on the

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02:04:02,450 --> 02:03:58,110
spiritual religious line as one might

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02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:02,460
suppose and then when vice up be again

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02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:05,370
the principal Bavarian said you know cut

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02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:06,770
it out knock it off

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02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:09,330
we don't want to lose a noddy's around

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here and ostensibly that's what they did

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02:04:20,270 --> 02:04:17,190
they did they closed the society which

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02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:20,280
was basically a collegiate organization

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02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:23,610
but then the threat after the French

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02:04:27,980 --> 02:04:26,250
Revolution some people begin to thinking

2705
02:04:31,550 --> 02:04:27,990
you know there was this Illuminati the

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02:04:34,370 --> 02:04:31,560
guns up area the whole idea I can't

2707
02:04:36,470 --> 02:04:34,380
believe that peasants could rise up and

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02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:36,480
lower-class could rise up against those

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02:04:44,330 --> 02:04:40,130
aristocrats I'll bet those Germans in

2710
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:44,340
those Bavarians in with the Illuminati

2711
02:04:49,310 --> 02:04:46,170
they must have had something to do it

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02:04:53,210 --> 02:04:49,320
with it and that's really where for the

2713
02:04:55,460 --> 02:04:53,220
first time we have global conspiracies

2714
02:04:59,690 --> 02:04:55,470
beginning they were pretty much isolated

2715
02:05:02,390 --> 02:04:59,700
to particular areas so that theory is an

2716
02:05:03,770 --> 02:05:02,400
interesting one and I appreciate the

2717
02:05:06,020 --> 02:05:03,780
individual bringing that up but

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02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:06,030
something sherry and I want us to look

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02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:09,330
into we shouldn't forget that the early

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02:05:14,410 --> 02:05:12,450
Christian Church and later on the Roman

2721
02:05:18,450 --> 02:05:14,420
Catholic Church did a very good job of

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02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:18,460
stamping out rival mystical

2723
02:05:23,610 --> 02:05:20,890
cults and end groups the Mithra cults

2724
02:05:26,459 --> 02:05:23,620
were pretty much dissolved the Gnostics

2725
02:05:29,700 --> 02:05:26,469
would chaste in that the Cathars and I

2726
02:05:32,729 --> 02:05:29,710
mean you go down the list of esoteric

2727
02:05:34,290 --> 02:05:32,739
more personally spiritual individually

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02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:34,300
spiritually based groups

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02:05:37,590 --> 02:05:35,890
we're hunted out of existence pretty

2730
02:05:39,290 --> 02:05:37,600
much and stamped out by the early

2731
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:39,300
Christian Church and of course later on

2732
02:05:44,630 --> 02:05:42,250
then you might have a I don't know this

2733
02:05:47,420 --> 02:05:44,640
whole idea of taking the whole

2734
02:05:50,430 --> 02:05:47,430
alchemical pursuits that particular

2735
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:50,440
pseudo pre chemistry or pseudo

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02:05:55,410 --> 02:05:53,890
scientific and illumined tradition and

2737
02:05:58,050 --> 02:05:55,420
and pretty much doing away with it of

2738
02:06:00,120 --> 02:05:58,060
course you have the Bohemians and the

2739
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:00,130
young king and queen that tried to set

2740
02:06:04,890 --> 02:06:03,010
up Bohemia alchemical country and and

2741
02:06:06,959 --> 02:06:04,900
they were attacked by the Spanish and

2742
02:06:08,990 --> 02:06:06,969
and I think that's when wasn't that when

2743
02:06:12,270 --> 02:06:09,000
Rennie Descartes had his angelic

2744
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:12,280
visitation and was told that the secret

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02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:14,130
of all things is in measure and number

2746
02:06:19,140 --> 02:06:16,090
interesting subject and I'm really glad

2747
02:06:22,940 --> 02:06:19,150
that sub that question came up to

2748
02:06:26,520 --> 02:06:22,950
alchemy is as you're aware obviously

2749
02:06:29,340 --> 02:06:26,530
it's very fascinating to study it isn't

2750
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:29,350
at all you know what we first were told

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02:06:35,459 --> 02:06:33,370
in our early examinations and textbooks

2752
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:35,469
but if you really get into some of the

2753
02:06:42,870 --> 02:06:40,690
more esoteric volumes of alchemy it's a

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02:06:47,100 --> 02:06:42,880
fascinating and the goals and the

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02:06:48,810 --> 02:06:47,110
individuals involved in our encyclopedia

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02:06:53,330 --> 02:06:48,820
on that journey and I did the

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02:06:56,220 --> 02:06:53,340
three-volume encyclopedia that we did I

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02:06:58,850 --> 02:06:56,230
figured that must be done here's

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02:07:01,800 --> 02:06:58,860
authority yes and they Gale encyclopedia

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02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:01,810
the use of an unexplained serie and I

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02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:04,930
included there in the entries their

2762
02:07:10,950 --> 02:07:08,170
lives and the research of many of the

2763
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:10,960
fascinating cultists of the Renaissance

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02:07:15,330 --> 02:07:13,690
and of the enlightenment and it is not

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02:07:18,030 --> 02:07:15,340
what one would think you know that

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02:07:20,700 --> 02:07:18,040
wasn't organized and so much of our

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02:07:23,250 --> 02:07:20,710
everyday items that we use today were

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02:07:27,650 --> 02:07:23,260
discovered by those alchemists so again

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02:07:30,750 --> 02:07:27,660
a period of time that was heavenly

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02:07:31,890 --> 02:07:30,760
legislated by the strong arm of the

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church

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02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:34,120
and as Chris just mentioned so many of

2773
02:07:40,380 --> 02:07:37,930
these early demonic societies were what

2774
02:07:42,990 --> 02:07:40,390
today we would call scientific research

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02:07:44,730 --> 02:07:43,000
groups and were little they stand out

2776
02:07:47,730 --> 02:07:44,740
but the bits and pieces of their

2777
02:07:50,430 --> 02:07:47,740
research surface from time to time and

2778
02:07:52,470 --> 02:07:50,440
just fascinating to explore and study

2779
02:07:55,380 --> 02:07:52,480
most amazing things I think I've ever

2780
02:07:58,290 --> 02:07:55,390
seen personally was the large silver

2781
02:08:01,590 --> 02:07:58,300
platter that sitting in Versailles

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02:08:04,890 --> 02:08:01,600
that's half gold that supposedly same

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02:08:07,890 --> 02:08:04,900
German was able in front of the court to

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transmute it halfway from silver into

2785
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:09,940
gold and it's it's still there you can

2786
02:08:13,860 --> 02:08:12,250
see it it's on display I think there's a

2787
02:08:16,230 --> 02:08:13,870
lot of secret knowledge that the

2788
02:08:18,630 --> 02:08:16,240
alchemists through trial and error and

2789
02:08:20,910 --> 02:08:18,640
lots of hard work were able to come up

2790
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:20,920
with some things but because of the

2791
02:08:26,250 --> 02:08:23,290
paranoia that they had relating to their

2792
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:26,260
work in the church they often couched it

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02:08:32,460 --> 02:08:29,410
in these very almost nonsensical you

2794
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:32,470
know wordsmith formulas that when you

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02:08:36,060 --> 02:08:34,570
read them now it sounds like the person

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02:08:38,670 --> 02:08:36,070
is like on some sort of drug or

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something you know the the burning the

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dross off the wing at this and the just

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02:08:46,230 --> 02:08:44,680
some of the just very weird treatises

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that they that they would hide their

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their formulas in and of course now

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02:08:52,440 --> 02:08:50,890
we've lost the the key to understanding

2803
02:08:54,690 --> 02:08:52,450
much of this but but you bring up a very

2804
02:08:57,960 --> 02:08:54,700
good point that you know that whole

2805
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branch of inquiry I think was it pretty

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effectively stamped out but we do have

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the vestiges of that in the modern day

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and again the interesting thing or one

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of the interesting things was many of

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the alchemists crediting a man dressed

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in black that mysteriously appeared in

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their laboratories and gave them an

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the loss of her stone that would turn

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base metals into gold

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that's fascinating because it's an early

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manifestation of a man in black or is

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that someone from the underground Empire

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coming up to slowly lead human

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finding bits and pieces of information

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that would help them evolve and more

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exact and profound science than he had

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for your entire body if you restore the

2930
02:14:21,939 --> 02:14:20,000
optimal glutathione levels in your cells

2931
02:14:23,830 --> 02:14:21,949
especially your glands and organs then

2932
02:14:25,930 --> 02:14:23,840
as a result your glands and organs work

2933
02:14:27,669 --> 02:14:25,940
better imagine the quality of life

2934
02:14:29,859 --> 02:14:27,679
improvement you might have to order one

2935
02:14:31,540 --> 02:14:29,869
world way call eight eight eight nine

2936
02:14:32,979 --> 02:14:31,550
eight eight three three two five that's

2937
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:32,989
eight eight eight nine eight eight three

2938
02:14:42,490 --> 02:14:36,050
three to five or visit one world wacom

2939
02:14:44,049 --> 02:14:42,500
that's one world WH ey comm hi this is

2940
02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:44,059
make pipes you're listening to the

2941
02:14:48,590 --> 02:14:45,650
parrot rock

2942
02:14:51,500 --> 02:14:48,600
is that the Johnny Cash voice that was

2943
02:14:55,670 --> 02:14:51,510
kind of a weak attempt right you have to

2944
02:15:00,890 --> 02:14:55,680
say the pair guest hey that's better

2945
02:15:02,480 --> 02:15:00,900
what do you think Fred he's gonna keep

2946
02:15:04,430 --> 02:15:02,490
doing it till he gets it right but we

2947
02:15:05,990 --> 02:15:04,440
don't have a show that long well I don't

2948
02:15:07,730 --> 02:15:06,000
know a ring of fire I was thought it was

2949
02:15:09,740 --> 02:15:07,740
like some sort of like loosely based

2950
02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:09,750
song about a venereal disease or

2951
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:15,330
something sorry about that there is

2952
02:15:20,260 --> 02:15:17,370
silence they say I tell bad jokes here

2953
02:15:24,200 --> 02:15:20,270
so I just want to point to other

2954
02:15:27,170 --> 02:15:24,210
frequent offenders here okay they are

2955
02:15:31,090 --> 02:15:27,180
now being silent okay we're back on well

2956
02:15:38,210 --> 02:15:35,180
Brad Steiger joining us maybe 12,000

2957
02:15:40,400 --> 02:15:38,220
books on UFOs psychic phenomenon of the

2958
02:15:42,890 --> 02:15:40,410
paranormal and we're getting through

2959
02:15:53,900 --> 02:15:42,900
about 900 this particular episode right

2960
02:15:57,050 --> 02:15:53,910
you're about to say I've enjoyed by

2961
02:15:59,720 --> 02:15:57,060
reader and gene and nice to meet Chris

2962
02:16:02,450 --> 02:15:59,730
this way from here with some of his

2963
02:16:05,210 --> 02:16:02,460
books but we've never spoken before that

2964
02:16:07,670 --> 02:16:05,220
I can recall so it's been very nice to

2965
02:16:12,080 --> 02:16:07,680
do that and nice to connect the Terra

2966
02:16:14,660 --> 02:16:12,090
cast again we kept in touch but I

2967
02:16:17,450 --> 02:16:14,670
haven't been two years since I've been

2968
02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:17,460
on I think so yeah

2969
02:16:24,260 --> 02:16:20,400
yes time flies when you're having fun or

2970
02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:24,270
not I'll tell you anyway let's look into

2971
02:16:28,580 --> 02:16:26,730
more subjects here to deal with before

2972
02:16:32,300 --> 02:16:28,590
we let you go and I want to basically

2973
02:16:34,340 --> 02:16:32,310
drift back into the infamous ufology

2974
02:16:37,010 --> 02:16:34,350
thing because you know we so much

2975
02:16:38,780 --> 02:16:37,020
emphasize how UFOs are far more

2976
02:16:41,330 --> 02:16:38,790
complicated if that can be considered

2977
02:16:43,340 --> 02:16:41,340
complicated then maybe just spaceships

2978
02:16:44,900 --> 02:16:43,350
but there's still a large portion of

2979
02:16:47,060 --> 02:16:44,910
people I mean if you do a survey of the

2980
02:16:50,360 --> 02:16:47,070
number of people who believe in UFOs

2981
02:16:54,170 --> 02:16:50,370
it's almost a given that 99 percent of

2982
02:16:55,880 --> 02:16:54,180
them will say spaceships so being in

2983
02:16:59,030 --> 02:16:55,890
this field for as long as you have Brad

2984
02:17:01,070 --> 02:16:59,040
Steiger how do you change perceptions as

2985
02:17:03,500 --> 02:17:01,080
to what they are or is that just too

2986
02:17:07,310 --> 02:17:03,510
complicated to explain in a Reader's

2987
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:07,320
Digest formula far too more complicated

2988
02:17:17,390 --> 02:17:13,290
far too more again I think it's no as I

2989
02:17:21,129 --> 02:17:17,400
said G no we were excited that the

2990
02:17:23,299 --> 02:17:21,139
spaceships were here remember we were

2991
02:17:26,839 --> 02:17:23,309
enthusiastic they're here they're here

2992
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:26,849
and that consisted say a wish that many

2993
02:17:33,020 --> 02:17:28,050
people have

2994
02:17:35,030 --> 02:17:33,030
I don't blink and we were always told we

2995
02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:35,040
were told repeatedly the government's

2996
02:17:40,910 --> 02:17:37,770
covering up because they know we can't

2997
02:17:43,549 --> 02:17:40,920
handle the truth you know we we can't

2998
02:17:45,970 --> 02:17:43,559
our religions would disappear everything

2999
02:17:48,890 --> 02:17:45,980
would just be demolished if we knew

3000
02:17:52,839 --> 02:17:48,900
aliens were visiting well we even have

3001
02:17:55,370 --> 02:17:52,849
the Pope now saying that or at least his

3002
02:17:57,440 --> 02:17:55,380
poop scientists saying that they

3003
02:17:59,390 --> 02:17:57,450
recognize there could be life on another

3004
02:18:00,169 --> 02:17:59,400
world so that there is life on other

3005
02:18:03,410 --> 02:18:00,179
planets

3006
02:18:05,690 --> 02:18:03,420
quite possibly so I don't think there

3007
02:18:09,709 --> 02:18:05,700
would be that shocked anymore but then

3008
02:18:12,910 --> 02:18:09,719
we have perpetually movies or television

3009
02:18:15,919 --> 02:18:12,920
series like falling skies and

3010
02:18:18,290 --> 02:18:15,929
demonstrating that they are coming if

3011
02:18:21,980 --> 02:18:18,300
they're coming they're coming because

3012
02:18:25,669 --> 02:18:21,990
they are vastly superior and were answer

3013
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:25,679
were less than nothing and and they will

3014
02:18:30,440 --> 02:18:28,080
enslave us they will destroy the world

3015
02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:30,450
as we know it so it's an interesting

3016
02:18:37,610 --> 02:18:33,450
dichotomy here of fear and promise I

3017
02:18:41,570 --> 02:18:37,620
think secretly those people who maintain

3018
02:18:44,540 --> 02:18:41,580
the et hypothesis that within them they

3019
02:18:47,390 --> 02:18:44,550
hope that these people will come in

3020
02:18:51,860 --> 02:18:47,400
peace they will come to advance our

3021
02:18:54,770 --> 02:18:51,870
science to eliminate climate change to

3022
02:18:56,750 --> 02:18:54,780
eliminate or to rectify or balance

3023
02:18:59,510 --> 02:18:56,760
behind a change let's say that they can

3024
02:19:02,089 --> 02:18:59,520
eliminate it to eliminate hunger to

3025
02:19:04,970 --> 02:19:02,099
clear cancer to do all those things that

3026
02:19:08,990 --> 02:19:04,980
we have not yet achieved so again it's

3027
02:19:11,270 --> 02:19:09,000
that everlasting hope of they City on

3028
02:19:12,799 --> 02:19:11,280
the hill the city on the hill that has

3029
02:19:15,889 --> 02:19:12,809
great philosophy

3030
02:19:18,919 --> 02:19:15,899
has great answers to the questions that

3031
02:19:23,569 --> 02:19:18,929
plague and trouble us most so I think

3032
02:19:26,330 --> 02:19:23,579
there is within probably all those who

3033
02:19:28,459 --> 02:19:26,340
maintain that iki hypothesis and again

3034
02:19:31,669 --> 02:19:28,469
we're not saying that the ichi

3035
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:31,679
hypothesis has not been true in our

3036
02:19:38,179 --> 02:19:35,010
ancient past in our prehistory and we're

3037
02:19:40,669 --> 02:19:38,189
not saying that there is no possibility

3038
02:19:43,849 --> 02:19:40,679
of life on other worlds we're just

3039
02:19:47,569 --> 02:19:43,859
saying that perhaps the phenomena that

3040
02:19:51,349 --> 02:19:47,579
were witnessing now it's largely made up

3041
02:19:54,290 --> 02:19:51,359
and controlled by in intelligence that

3042
02:19:57,050 --> 02:19:54,300
we cannot yet comprehend that has always

3043
02:19:59,809 --> 02:19:57,060
been with us behind the scenes the

3044
02:20:01,849 --> 02:19:59,819
wizard behind the curtain directing us

3045
02:20:05,450 --> 02:20:01,859
and subtle and sometimes not so subtle

3046
02:20:08,059 --> 02:20:05,460
ways and that we do need to examine once

3047
02:20:12,349 --> 02:20:08,069
again our mythology our religious

3048
02:20:15,410 --> 02:20:12,359
traditions our various philosophies that

3049
02:20:17,210 --> 02:20:15,420
have always spoke of the other and have

3050
02:20:18,920 --> 02:20:17,220
always spoken the other and that's

3051
02:20:21,889 --> 02:20:18,930
that's what I choose to say now not

3052
02:20:23,630 --> 02:20:21,899
aliens but the other the other that has

3053
02:20:26,750 --> 02:20:23,640
always manifested that it's always

3054
02:20:28,939 --> 02:20:26,760
interacted with it sometimes very subtly

3055
02:20:31,550 --> 02:20:28,949
most times very subtly and sometimes

3056
02:20:34,550 --> 02:20:31,560
very overt which then startles us

3057
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:34,560
frightens us or seems to fulfill the

3058
02:20:39,620 --> 02:20:37,680
promise bring up some very very very

3059
02:20:41,750 --> 02:20:39,630
good points something we've talked about

3060
02:20:44,200 --> 02:20:41,760
here at the pear cast extensively and

3061
02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:44,210
that is we're dealing with outmoded

3062
02:20:50,269 --> 02:20:47,130
religious control structures that are

3063
02:20:53,929 --> 02:20:50,279
just not supplying people with the type

3064
02:20:55,849 --> 02:20:53,939
of belief centered rituals and things

3065
02:20:58,519 --> 02:20:55,859
that they can identify with and and I

3066
02:21:00,550 --> 02:20:58,529
found myself last week at a UFO

3067
02:21:03,950 --> 02:21:00,560
conference with a lot of true believers

3068
02:21:05,719 --> 02:21:03,960
to be polite about it in the audience

3069
02:21:07,340 --> 02:21:05,729
and at one point I actually said don't

3070
02:21:09,139 --> 02:21:07,350
you people realize that you're here

3071
02:21:10,969 --> 02:21:09,149
sitting in the pews of the new Church of

3072
02:21:14,569 --> 02:21:10,979
the 21st century and I'm the preacher

3073
02:21:17,240 --> 02:21:14,579
and can I get an amen and I got an a

3074
02:21:20,569 --> 02:21:17,250
Minuteman they didn't just throw you out

3075
02:21:22,670 --> 02:21:20,579
I don't I don't know if you're familiar

3076
02:21:24,740 --> 02:21:22,680
with the fellowship that sherry and I

3077
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:24,750
did for Doubleday oh goodness

3078
02:21:28,761 --> 02:21:26,610
20 years ago maybe

3079
02:21:31,670 --> 02:21:28,771
but in that we went through the

3080
02:21:34,430 --> 02:21:31,680
contactee philosophy in the contact each

3081
02:21:36,950 --> 02:21:34,440
preachment then we indicated that what

3082
02:21:41,860 --> 02:21:36,960
we're seeing is a new religion in the

3083
02:21:46,011 --> 02:21:41,870
making and I think that it has become a

3084
02:21:49,970 --> 02:21:46,021
transfer of what has been our orthodoxy

3085
02:21:53,030 --> 02:21:49,980
and incorporating the outerspace

3086
02:21:55,820 --> 02:21:53,040
gospel and that seems to be with all the

3087
02:21:59,080 --> 02:21:55,830
contact is you go further it is really

3088
02:22:02,660 --> 02:21:59,090
kind of an updating in a more palatable

3089
02:22:05,540 --> 02:22:02,670
scientific manner of delivery and it is

3090
02:22:07,940 --> 02:22:05,550
in a sense very great sense as you just

3091
02:22:09,740 --> 02:22:07,950
said a new religion but it isn't

3092
02:22:13,340 --> 02:22:09,750
interesting when we look at the folklore

3093
02:22:16,190 --> 02:22:13,350
of UFOs house for example for a while

3094
02:22:16,730 --> 02:22:16,200
when aliens came here they were nice

3095
02:22:19,790 --> 02:22:16,740
people

3096
02:22:23,150 --> 02:22:19,800
we had Steven Spielberg had this changed

3097
02:22:24,790 --> 02:22:23,160
this morphing from good to evil so we

3098
02:22:27,051 --> 02:22:24,800
had Close Encounters of the Third Kind

3099
02:22:28,700 --> 02:22:27,061
we have kind of an alien exchange

3100
02:22:30,830 --> 02:22:28,710
program they're here for good purposes

3101
02:22:33,890 --> 02:22:30,840
we have et little child like the

3102
02:22:35,870 --> 02:22:33,900
preacher you know just a wonderful

3103
02:22:38,960 --> 02:22:35,880
friendly little creature and we

3104
02:22:41,540 --> 02:22:38,970
mistreated et but he forgave us for it

3105
02:22:43,430 --> 02:22:41,550
but then Steven Spielberg gives us War

3106
02:22:46,040 --> 02:22:43,440
of the Worlds the modern rendition of

3107
02:22:48,051 --> 02:22:46,050
the HG Wells story about aliens on the

3108
02:22:51,350 --> 02:22:48,061
loose and then of course he's producer

3109
02:22:53,420 --> 02:22:51,360
executive producer of falling skies so

3110
02:22:56,530 --> 02:22:53,430
why do we have as just the Hollywood

3111
02:23:02,301 --> 02:22:56,540
friends or something more well you know

3112
02:23:05,810 --> 02:23:02,311
more of course I think that we are no

3113
02:23:09,051 --> 02:23:05,820
one reads books anymore alas alas but

3114
02:23:11,261 --> 02:23:09,061
they go to and even you know the World

3115
02:23:14,480 --> 02:23:11,271
Wide Web more than they go to movies

3116
02:23:16,940 --> 02:23:14,490
movies are having a bad time but we

3117
02:23:18,770 --> 02:23:16,950
learn now by that flickering image

3118
02:23:22,670 --> 02:23:18,780
either on this set in our living room

3119
02:23:26,140 --> 02:23:22,680
surrounding in the Cineplex and that is

3120
02:23:29,090 --> 02:23:26,150
the best way to I think on some level of

3121
02:23:31,700 --> 02:23:29,100
consciousness these individuals are

3122
02:23:32,660 --> 02:23:31,710
being influenced to show us both sides

3123
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:32,670
of the coin

3124
02:23:37,700 --> 02:23:35,010
and also as some people would say to

3125
02:23:39,800 --> 02:23:37,710
prepare us for contact because it isn't

3126
02:23:42,889 --> 02:23:39,810
contact Paris

3127
02:23:46,040 --> 02:23:42,899
the realization that were not alone this

3128
02:23:48,679 --> 02:23:46,050
other intelligence and intelligences to

3129
02:23:50,929 --> 02:23:48,689
the other the other has always been with

3130
02:23:53,660 --> 02:23:50,939
us well the other question I have about

3131
02:23:55,819 --> 02:23:53,670
the other whoever it is would that force

3132
02:23:57,710 --> 02:23:55,829
want us to know or do they just play

3133
02:23:59,330 --> 02:23:57,720
these games here and there and

3134
02:24:01,189 --> 02:23:59,340
everywhere and they don't really reveal

3135
02:24:03,109 --> 02:24:01,199
themselves in a way that you can

3136
02:24:05,420 --> 02:24:03,119
basically get a handle on them and say

3137
02:24:07,819 --> 02:24:05,430
okay we know what they're up to now it's

3138
02:24:10,609 --> 02:24:07,829
always kind of on the edges of society

3139
02:24:12,620 --> 02:24:10,619
of course we still use science when you

3140
02:24:14,899 --> 02:24:12,630
want to get in touch with us you can

3141
02:24:17,569 --> 02:24:14,909
contact us on Twitter where we are known

3142
02:24:19,790 --> 02:24:17,579
as the power cast once again that's the

3143
02:24:21,979 --> 02:24:19,800
power cast on Twitter we have Rhett

3144
02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:21,989
Steiger joining us with Jean and Chris

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02:24:32,210 --> 02:24:29,850
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this is actually you listening to the

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podcast the gold standard of paranormal

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radio so the effort ephemeral or elusive

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other we're talking to Brad stager will

3246
02:29:12,360 --> 02:29:08,770
see an increase in the para cast Brad

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02:29:14,220 --> 02:29:12,370
your response well encounter the players

3248
02:29:18,090 --> 02:29:14,230
I took an optimistic look and saying

3249
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that their purpose is to drag us into

3250
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the future

3251
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clicking and screaming in some cases so

3252
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that is the optimistic side they not

3253
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Desna mystic but the more realistic side

3254
02:29:37,200 --> 02:29:33,430
is perhaps they'll never reveal

3255
02:29:41,780 --> 02:29:37,210
themselves exactly as they are but I

3256
02:29:44,760 --> 02:29:41,790
still do believe that it's largely an

3257
02:29:48,300 --> 02:29:44,770
educational process for us to recognize

3258
02:29:51,120 --> 02:29:48,310
you know the potential we have as human

3259
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beings the potential we had to rise

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above in to conquer our own the problems

3261
02:30:03,750 --> 02:29:59,620
that we have within us that ability and

3262
02:30:07,590 --> 02:30:03,760
we need not look to a great teacher in

3263
02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:07,600
the sky a great teacher or intervener

3264
02:30:16,350 --> 02:30:11,770
on Mount Olympus that we have within us

3265
02:30:20,400 --> 02:30:16,360
that ability that power to become so

3266
02:30:25,170 --> 02:30:20,410
much more and to really move it into

3267
02:30:27,600 --> 02:30:25,180
another phase of human evolution so we

3268
02:30:29,040 --> 02:30:27,610
just have to follow it we won't know

3269
02:30:31,770 --> 02:30:29,050
what's going to happen we're just going

3270
02:30:35,310 --> 02:30:31,780
to follow this movement and travel where

3271
02:30:37,980 --> 02:30:35,320
it takes us I guess so unless someone

3272
02:30:44,550 --> 02:30:37,990
comes up with a really remarkable

3273
02:30:46,110 --> 02:30:44,560
formula to crack their code can we

3274
02:30:48,620 --> 02:30:46,120
assume that's ever gonna happen or is it

3275
02:30:55,370 --> 02:30:48,630
always going to be this one step beyond

3276
02:30:59,700 --> 02:30:55,380
well I guess I'm the eternal optimist I

3277
02:31:03,030 --> 02:30:59,710
think it's going to happen when we have

3278
02:31:06,690 --> 02:31:03,040
it understands a little avenge of

3279
02:31:10,260 --> 02:31:06,700
evangelistic and I don't mean to do but

3280
02:31:14,600 --> 02:31:10,270
when we demonstrate as a species that we

3281
02:31:18,030 --> 02:31:14,610
can go 24 hours without murdering

3282
02:31:22,250 --> 02:31:18,040
thousands of our number without defaming

3283
02:31:24,900 --> 02:31:22,260
and killing those who disagree with our

3284
02:31:28,890 --> 02:31:24,910
point of view with our political

3285
02:31:31,920 --> 02:31:28,900
position where we can have more exchange

3286
02:31:36,210 --> 02:31:31,930
of intelligence ideas rather than hatred

3287
02:31:39,540 --> 02:31:36,220
when animosity as a species begins to do

3288
02:31:43,469 --> 02:31:39,550
moderate and to indicate that you know

3289
02:31:46,260 --> 02:31:43,479
we are we are beings in the process of

3290
02:31:51,780 --> 02:31:46,270
becoming who are supposed to be and at

3291
02:31:55,050 --> 02:31:51,790
this point when when people can rise in

3292
02:32:01,400 --> 02:31:55,060
mass because of an interpretation of

3293
02:32:05,219 --> 02:32:01,410
their religious idol and kill others and

3294
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:05,229
not have an openness into so once again

3295
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:11,050
the rigidity of this primitive espousals

3296
02:32:19,950 --> 02:32:16,000
that my way is the only way until we

3297
02:32:24,050 --> 02:32:19,960
have an openness until we have time

3298
02:32:27,510 --> 02:32:24,060
without bigotry hatred and avarice I

3299
02:32:30,390 --> 02:32:27,520
don't know if we deserve to evolve but

3300
02:32:33,150 --> 02:32:30,400
let's that's all and as I say I'm not

3301
02:32:36,210 --> 02:32:33,160
trying to be an evangelist here but but

3302
02:32:39,270 --> 02:32:36,220
I really think that we are we have not

3303
02:32:42,450 --> 02:32:39,280
reached our full state of evolution I

3304
02:32:44,190 --> 02:32:42,460
think that we are evolving and and we

3305
02:32:47,360 --> 02:32:44,200
don't want to use probably the word

3306
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:47,370
spiritual that has certain connotations

3307
02:32:51,990 --> 02:32:49,930
but at the present time

3308
02:32:56,030 --> 02:32:52,000
maybe that's still the best word we need

3309
02:33:02,580 --> 02:32:58,170
recognizing everyone is our brother and

3310
02:33:05,130 --> 02:33:02,590
sister recognizing that we are have had

3311
02:33:07,560 --> 02:33:05,140
the responsibility for this planet

3312
02:33:10,020 --> 02:33:07,570
it's not going to come to Mangel from

3313
02:33:13,229 --> 02:33:10,030
this guy it's not going to come in a

3314
02:33:16,920 --> 02:33:13,239
spaceship from another world that we

3315
02:33:19,769 --> 02:33:16,930
oan are the custodians and responsible

3316
02:33:24,479 --> 02:33:19,779
for this planet and we have to accept

3317
02:33:27,619 --> 02:33:24,489
our responsibility as caretakers well

3318
02:33:30,210 --> 02:33:27,629
you're here I couldn't agree more

3319
02:33:32,429 --> 02:33:30,220
one thing that's always troubled me and

3320
02:33:35,429 --> 02:33:32,439
I know you've touched on this in the

3321
02:33:38,189 --> 02:33:35,439
past also Jacques Vallee and his book

3322
02:33:40,289 --> 02:33:38,199
messengers of deception they have

3323
02:33:43,529 --> 02:33:40,299
brought up the disturbing possibility

3324
02:33:46,619 --> 02:33:43,539
that this emerging belief structure that

3325
02:33:49,649 --> 02:33:46,629
was seeing surrounding et's and and the

3326
02:33:52,170 --> 02:33:49,659
paranormal in general but it's really

3327
02:33:55,260 --> 02:33:52,180
fertile ground for societal manipulation

3328
02:33:59,249 --> 02:33:55,270
and with the advent of holographic you

3329
02:34:01,380 --> 02:33:59,259
know projection technology and and you

3330
02:34:03,779 --> 02:34:01,390
beaming certain frequencies of

3331
02:34:07,349 --> 02:34:03,789
microwaves to resonate in your skull and

3332
02:34:10,829 --> 02:34:07,359
and talk to you in your head we could

3333
02:34:13,380 --> 02:34:10,839
see a Project Blue Beam type of vent

3334
02:34:15,449 --> 02:34:13,390
where some sort of you know angelic

3335
02:34:17,639 --> 02:34:15,459
presence is visible on the sky and it

3336
02:34:20,729 --> 02:34:17,649
speaks to everybody and this is this is

3337
02:34:24,510 --> 02:34:20,739
a very real possibility so we have to be

3338
02:34:26,609 --> 02:34:24,520
really careful when when we look at some

3339
02:34:30,210 --> 02:34:26,619
of these events especially mass events

3340
02:34:32,069 --> 02:34:30,220
the Phoenix lights you know that some of

3341
02:34:35,729 --> 02:34:32,079
the Stevensville recent reports from

3342
02:34:38,460 --> 02:34:35,739
2008 some of these events could kind of

3343
02:34:41,159 --> 02:34:38,470
spiral out of control and we might have

3344
02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:41,169
to run to our our protective structure

3345
02:34:46,349 --> 02:34:43,930
the government to save us from the from

3346
02:34:49,079 --> 02:34:46,359
the angelic being that's the warning us

3347
02:34:50,189 --> 02:34:49,089
against some sort of Cataclysm or you

3348
02:34:52,229 --> 02:34:50,199
know what I mean

3349
02:34:54,599 --> 02:34:52,239
your mind can just take this scenario

3350
02:34:56,909 --> 02:34:54,609
and run with it so we always have to

3351
02:35:00,199 --> 02:34:56,919
have that I think in mind that this

3352
02:35:05,099 --> 02:35:00,209
could be a form of societal manipulation

3353
02:35:09,840 --> 02:35:05,109
using using these beliefs and and using

3354
02:35:16,670 --> 02:35:09,850
it to manipulate fellow man well we have

3355
02:35:22,889 --> 02:35:20,789
well in our conspiracy book one of the

3356
02:35:25,019 --> 02:35:22,899
reasons we feel there is so much

3357
02:35:26,761 --> 02:35:25,029
interest in fascination with the various

3358
02:35:29,341 --> 02:35:26,771
conspiracies now

3359
02:35:32,671 --> 02:35:29,351
is that so many people are obsessed with

3360
02:35:34,860 --> 02:35:32,681
the apocalypse at this time and every

3361
02:35:38,761 --> 02:35:34,870
once in a while you know a minister a

3362
02:35:42,121 --> 02:35:38,771
preacher will say pastor whatever we'll

3363
02:35:42,991 --> 02:35:42,131
say that he's been given a vision of the

3364
02:35:46,621 --> 02:35:43,001
end of the world

3365
02:35:48,480 --> 02:35:46,631
and this makes press and then of course

3366
02:35:50,371 --> 02:35:48,490
that happens in the worlds there the

3367
02:35:52,711 --> 02:35:50,381
next day and then he will quickly

3368
02:35:54,650 --> 02:35:52,721
announce no no I was wrong my

3369
02:35:58,560 --> 02:35:54,660
computations from the book of Revelation

3370
02:36:01,680 --> 02:35:58,570
indicate it will be in September and not

3371
02:36:03,841 --> 02:36:01,690
in day so we keep progressing as that

3372
02:36:06,121 --> 02:36:03,851
people are really obsessed that this is

3373
02:36:08,881 --> 02:36:06,131
the time these are the end times were

3374
02:36:11,820 --> 02:36:08,891
living in the end times and as you say

3375
02:36:15,110 --> 02:36:11,830
in sherry and I have speculated that if

3376
02:36:17,761 --> 02:36:15,120
someone had the road right Omicron

3377
02:36:20,251 --> 02:36:17,771
holographic imagery and they suddenly

3378
02:36:24,091 --> 02:36:20,261
projected on the skies over every major

3379
02:36:27,661 --> 02:36:24,101
city four horsemen coming galloping and

3380
02:36:30,241 --> 02:36:27,671
you know people would think it was the

3381
02:36:32,131 --> 02:36:30,251
apocalypse it was gone again let's not

3382
02:36:36,091 --> 02:36:32,141
give me any ideas there four horsemen in

3383
02:36:38,961 --> 02:36:36,101
the sky someone's got reported sighting

3384
02:36:41,161 --> 02:36:38,971
like this somewhere in Europe you think

3385
02:36:43,291 --> 02:36:41,171
how about over the Middle East maybe

3386
02:36:45,030 --> 02:36:43,301
look at Whitney's Spears in a bikini

3387
02:36:52,261 --> 02:36:45,040
I mean imagine the uproar that would

3388
02:36:54,511 --> 02:36:52,271
cause sorry I had to go there well magic

3389
02:36:59,461 --> 02:36:54,521
on there we're going to get some cards

3390
02:37:01,591 --> 02:36:59,471
and letters yeah you thought that film

3391
02:37:04,440 --> 02:37:01,601
about Muhammad having his way with the

3392
02:37:06,690 --> 02:37:04,450
with the local girls was bad man if they

3393
02:37:11,011 --> 02:37:06,700
ever tried to do that all bets would be

3394
02:37:13,621 --> 02:37:11,021
off oh yeah well I think that's one good

3395
02:37:15,211 --> 02:37:13,631
reason for et to want ended you know we

3396
02:37:17,011 --> 02:37:15,221
just can't get our acts together just

3397
02:37:19,650 --> 02:37:17,021
gets Messier and Messier every year and

3398
02:37:21,121 --> 02:37:19,660
either et or some outside force comes

3399
02:37:23,480 --> 02:37:21,131
down says you know what you've had your

3400
02:37:26,280 --> 02:37:23,490
chance and you blew it

3401
02:37:28,621 --> 02:37:26,290
let's try someone else let's try the

3402
02:37:34,501 --> 02:37:28,631
Apes next time or maybe we did try the

3403
02:37:38,070 --> 02:37:34,511
every guy in Dubai it will go all the

3404
02:37:40,381 --> 02:37:38,080
way with the Wolves okay we've had a

3405
02:37:42,961 --> 02:37:40,391
howling smashing time here

3406
02:37:44,940 --> 02:37:42,971
of the parrot ass with Brad Steiger Brad

3407
02:37:47,820 --> 02:37:44,950
tell our listeners where they can find

3408
02:37:50,910 --> 02:37:47,830
more the stuff you do well they can

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02:38:03,360 --> 02:37:50,920
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3410
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3411
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:06,341
see that you always very graciously

3412
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turned our website on your your own

3413
02:38:13,650 --> 02:38:11,500
pepper caste website which we appreciate

3414
02:38:16,320 --> 02:38:13,660
very much thank you Chris O'Brien where

3415
02:38:17,881 --> 02:38:16,330
can we find more of your stuff well it's

3416
02:38:20,251 --> 02:38:17,891
a strange planet as I think we've

3417
02:38:22,890 --> 02:38:20,261
demonstrated today with Brad and my

3418
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website is our strange planet calm you

3419
02:38:27,240 --> 02:38:25,181
can find us on Twitter where we are

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02:38:29,520 --> 02:38:27,250
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in Facebook too you can check the power

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02:38:37,020 --> 02:38:34,420
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3424
02:38:39,450 --> 02:38:37,030
so either way we like it

3425
02:38:41,461 --> 02:38:39,460
Brad Steiger it was three years since we

3426
02:38:44,660 --> 02:38:41,471
had your own last time thanks for

3427
02:38:47,970 --> 02:38:44,670
joining us this week on the hourglass

3428
02:38:56,940 --> 02:38:47,980
always thank you so much for your

3429
02:39:03,490 --> 02:39:00,460
the para cast featuring Jean Steinberg

3430
02:39:06,360 --> 02:39:03,500
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

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02:39:10,090 --> 02:39:06,370
presentation of making the impossible